Management of the working group

I guess you need to be careful on a per company or group basis as we have
several LIR's around Europe but all under the same company. You would not
want one person per separate LIR in each country voting on the same issue as
the company would probably have the same view.

Robert

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	owner-lir-wg at ripe.net [mailto:owner-lir-wg at ripe.net]  On Behalf Of
Frode Greisen
Sent:	Wednesday, January 24, 2001 1:48 PM
To:	Andre Koopal
Cc:	Hans Petter Holen; lir-wg at ripe.net
Subject:	Re: Management of the working group

OK, I buy the arguments of Neil and Andre. Of course there is always the
risk of one company sending a large group and hijacking the process which
is easier with a formal vote than with rough consensus. But I guess for
simplicity it then has to be one person one vote.

Frode

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Andre Koopal wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:59:23PM +0000, Frode Greisen wrote:
> > Hi Hans Petter,
> >
> > generally looks like a very good scheme to me. some detailed remarks
> > below.
> >
> > On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Hans Petter Holen wrote:
> >
> > > Dear lir-wg,
> > > as just expressed at the wg meeting, I think it is appropriate to
> > > suggest some formalities for the wg to elect its chairs.
> > >
> > > My proposal is as following:
> > >
> > > 1) Open nominations on the lir-wg mailinglist
> > > 2) Optional discussion and support statements
> > >
> > > 3) Election of chair and 1-2 co chairs at the next lir-wg
> > >    meeting in Bologna.
> > >
> > > 3b) The election to be performed either open ballot or
> > >    by secret ballot if demanded by one or more
> > >    participants at the meeting.
> > Each LIR has one vote.
>
> This is an open forum, it is not tied to RIPE ncc membership, and it
should
> also never be ...
>
> Regards,
>
> Andre
> > >
> > > 3c) The election to be confirmed by consensus by the wg
> > >    after the election result have been duly counted by a
> > >    counting team from the audience.
> > what if there is no consensus?: I suggest the reverse:
> >
> > 3c) The results of the election is sent to the mailing list. If at least
> > 10 LIRs are not satisfied with the outcome, they can state this via
email
> > within three weeks and a new election is done at the next meeting.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 4) That we perform such an election annualy to ensure the
> > >    community support to the wg chairs.
> > >
> > > As the meeting expressed support towards such an idea, I would like to
hear the opinions of the wg on theese matters before proceeding.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Hans Petter Holen
> > > lir-wg Chair
> > >
> > >
> >
> > best regards/Frode
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