Refuse een assignment because it 'cannot' be routed?
Herbert Baerten herbert.baerten at hostit.be
Tue Feb 27 14:40:22 CET 2001
> >> Now a customer would like to get a static ip but does not want > ONE static IP address? PA, I assume? Yes, PA. > >> If the customers sends a RIPE-141 request to the ISP, can the > ISP assign a > >> range but not route it to the customer? > > ... which would be extremely useful for ??? In order to force the customer to buy a more expensive service which includes fixed ip! Please understand that nor I nor my employer is doing this or even advocating this practice. To the contrary: I'm just observing that it happens and am so displeased about this that I am looking for ways to counter it. > >> Can it refuse the request on the grounds that it cannot route > the assigned > >> range to a dynamic ip? > > ... so, you want to rent a house and put a security guard on the entrance > door not allowing people who bought it to move in. Interesting ... I think it is more appropriate to state that someone is looking for a house but all landlords he meets will move his front door every day unless he pays tripple rent. I suppose the question can be phrased more theoretically as: "If a LIR is obliged to assign address space (is it?), wouldn't it make sense to oblige a provider to route it" or the other way'round: "If an address space request is made, is the non-willingness of an ISP to route it sufficient grounds to deny the request?" > Well, there is no formal policy obligation for you to route the addresses > you assigned, but what would those addresses then be good for? That's the point. Can the customer somehow (e.g. by submitting a ripe-141) force the ISP to assign him a static ip address? Or will it get him nowhere? BTW, you seem to assume that I represent the ISP, not the customer. Perhaps I should have added that I posed this question partly out of practical personal interest as a home user interested in ADSL, and partly out of theoretical professional interest as an employee at a LIR. So I tried to state the case in an objective fashion :) regards, Herbert
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