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> > The thing that I would like to remind  is that
> > the decision making about two letter country TLDs
> > subdomains are given to LIRs residing in the same
> > country.I would like to ask why the same approach is
> > not implemented about IPv6 address space allocation.
>
> Because a host ending in .gr is not obliged to reside withing the
> geographical boundaries of Greece (and this is true for many country
> TLDs).  Also, you have .com, .net, .org, .edu (and comming .inc
> .whatever) TLDs that are not bounded within a country.  This is the
> case for TLDs.
>
> Now immagine this:
>
> You have company A based say in Greece.  Now company A opens offices AB
> in Bulgaria.  Should company A get another address space slice for AB
> offices, or should it use addresses from the A slice, assuming there
> exists a direct connection from A to AB?
>
> Why make things more complicate than they already are?  The geography
> on the Internet is different that the "physical" one, which is the one
> the Telcos use.

The thing that I would like you consider is that we have enough address
space
availble trough IPv6.I have two remarks here:
1- why should IPv6 address space alocation follow the same procedure as IPv4
    while we had address space limitation there and we do not have address
space
    limitation in IPv6 then we must ease address space allocation in IPv6.
    currently I have to run a procedure for each end user who whishes to
    get address space and I have ensure RIPE that the address space is
really
    needed.end users do not have this permistion to reserve address space.
    that's ok while we are dealing with IPv4 , but what about IPv6?
    all of us know that designing a network with larger address space
    is easier and we can consider further developments too, address space
    is not fragmented and the network can run with higher performance.
    routers will have smaller routing tables  and we can save RAM and
    CPU resources.due to limited address space in IPv4 it was not possible.
    optimizations was based on minimizing required address space , with IPv6
    we can optimize the network design based on less resource usage and
    higher performance.
2- make address space allocation in IPv6 Localized.
    we can allocate some prefixes for countries , say put aside 2 bytes of
    address space. no? put aside 3 bytes, more or less put some space for
    countries. in 2 byte version we would have 65536 country codes while
    we do not have such amount of countries.RIRs can assign some prefix
    to companies which act international.let say a company whishes to act
    nation wide after a while he decides to have an office in an other
country.
    he must register his office in that country and get some permission for
    his activities there, let they get an address space assignment from LIR
in
    that country besides other permissions they have to get.they can do this
    or negotiate with a IR to get a multi-national or international prefix.
    how much effort is needed for this? and compare it with this procedure
    that I have to negotiate and get approval from RIPE whenever an ISP
    in my country needs address space.

   Best Regards
   Hamid Alipour

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> Yiorgos Adamopoulos <adamo at ieee.org>
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