Allocations for "always-on" ISPs

> I've been watching this thread for a few days.
> I fail to see your point,  why are so many people against NAT? in an isp
> situation.. 

If what you want to offer your customer is a Intranet service, that is
fine by me. Just don't mix this with a Internet service.

> I admit it rasies an (slight) overhead and perhaps some latency
> but for the majority of your average ISP customers its ideal 
> Why does Joe Blogs checking his mail and doing some surfing for books
> on amazon require a public  ip address??? Its in the average users interest to

It will restrict the Internet services the user can access as discussed in
previous emails.

> be behind a nat'd firewall. it puts security in our hands and takes the
> emphasis away from the user.

You are going down a dangerous path if you want to take responsibility for
your consumers computer security.

> IP6 will hopefully be the solution to address depletion, lets just hope they
> allocate them properly from the outset this time :-)


Hopefully something will come along. But if there is nothing driving it we
will never get there, instead we will be giving IPv4 intensive care until
it's to late to think about something else.

- kurtis -

> 
> Just my Monday morning 2 cents worth 
> 
> Graham
> 
> >
> >In time, this must and will prove detrimental to all those involved.
> >Sadly, many ISPs consider this type of service a valid offering to
> >un-suspecting customers.
> >
> >It may work for now, but it's not anything like the real Internet.  And
> >access customers are increasingly becoming aware of this.
> >
> >With regards to running out of IPv4 address space, who cares.  Let's run
> >out of them, and spawn a public discussion of why people are not focusing
> >on IPv6 development and deployment.
> >
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