Allocations for "always-on" ISPs

On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Øystein Homelien wrote:
>On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Neil J. McRae wrote:
>
>> NAT is your friend - very few home users need real IP addresses.
>
>NAT is our enemy.  It effectively turns the customer's IP access into
>something which is not the real Public Internet -- more like an intranet,
>offering access to a subset of the Public Internet.

- Morning 
I've been watching this thread for a few days.
I fail to see your point,  why are so many people against NAT? in an isp
situation.. 

I admit it rasies an (slight) overhead and perhaps some latency
but for the majority of your average ISP customers its ideal 
Why does Joe Blogs checking his mail and doing some surfing for books
on amazon require a public  ip address??? Its in the average users interest to
be behind a nat'd firewall. it puts security in our hands and takes the
emphasis away from the user.

The best option is to offer only static ips to those who require them i.e
corporate and experienced users who are willling to pay for the privilege. 

IP6 will hopefully be the solution to address depletion, lets just hope they
allocate them properly from the outset this time :-)

Just my Monday morning 2 cents worth 

Graham

>
>In time, this must and will prove detrimental to all those involved.
>Sadly, many ISPs consider this type of service a valid offering to
>un-suspecting customers.
>
>It may work for now, but it's not anything like the real Internet.  And
>access customers are increasingly becoming aware of this.
>
>With regards to running out of IPv4 address space, who cares.  Let's run
>out of them, and spawn a public discussion of why people are not focusing
>on IPv6 development and deployment.
>
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