Regarding the voting of Members to the ASO of ICANN

Daniel Karrenberg wrote:
> 
> I think the chair of RIPE did the best he possibly could given the time constraints
> put on us by ICANN, which imho are somewhat excessive considering the time the whole
> establishment of ICANN has taken, but this is another point.

Well, ARIN has been given another week to select their 
respresentatives. But even if this extra week was not given, 
they would choose their representatives from all the nominees 
that had accepted their nominations. And this shold have been
done by the ARIN Board of Trustees.

So ARIN is also suffering from a tight time frame, as APNIC.
But they would include all the nominees in the voting process. 

They have clearly stated that they would ask the nominees who
can attend to give a brief presentation. But you do not have
to be there at this moment. A representative from ARIN would 
read a short statement from those who can not attend the meeting. 

But due to the fact that ICANN has given ARIN an extra week
the actual voting will now take place at the ARIN public policy 
meeting on October 18, 1999.

But i also fully agree with one comment from ARIN who says that
it would be helpful if the ASO AC members and board member could 
attend the ARIN public policy meetings in order to get input from 
the ARIN community.

This also apply on the RIPE ASO representatives. 
 
> The meeting discussed and agreed that *for this initial time* an ad-hoc procedure
> needed to be used because those present felt that the process needs to move on.
> Once address council members had been selected those present were asked whether
> the selection was carried out as well as possible under the circumstances and
> there was consensus that we had done the best we could.

I fully understand that RIPE and it's membership was under the 
pressure to present 3 representatives to the ASO as soon as
possible. But was this the best solution? 

Could in not be done by ordinary voting instead of the decision
to take out four names from the list of nominees? What is wrong
with show of hands?
 
> *** It was also agreed that a better procedure needs to be established for the next
> *** wround of selections.

This is a must, and i support this initiative. And is a vital part
of the ICANN process. We have to ask ourself why we want to 
participate in the whole ICANN business. Is it not because we want
to protect the stability and the openess of how things is done 
regarding the "regulation" of the administrative part of the 
Internet that affect us all? If so, should we not live of to our
own expectations first. By following best practice and have an 
openess and fairness in our way we perform the voting of people 
to the seats that will do this work for us. If we not do this,
how can we then expect that other would do this?

Just a thought.
 
> This will be done over the next two RIPE meetings. Those that have ideas in this
> respect are more than welcome to help with it. Contact Rob Blokzijl in order to
> participate in the work.

Great. I will follow this development closely ;-)
 
> So I believe your concerns are already recognised and were recognised by those
> participating in the meeting.
 
A final clearification:

I am not trying to get the voting "disqualified" and call for
another round. What is done is done. Also, i have the biggest
faith in those that have been chosen. I wish them good luck
and i have the biggest trust in them that they will perform
their duty in the best way for our members and the Internet
community.

The reason that i signed this mail is to make everyone aware
of what i see is a strange way to perform a nomination and
voting within a membership.

To clearify my aim, i hearby withdraw my acceptation as a
nominee. Not that this would change anything regarding the
voting of the representatives to the ASO. Only to show that
this issue is something that must be solve before the next
selection of representatives within the RIPE community.
And my personal part of this is not of any importance 
comparing to the much bigger issues we will front.

I wish Sabine Jaume, Hans Petter Holen and Wilfried Woeber
the best.

Good luck!

Regards

/Amar Andersson

Telia Net