admin-c in inetnum

Hi,

In our experience with admin-c, we always assigned it to
the contact person of the customer.

We also do not bother to explain what the role of the admin-c 
is.  Some even suggested us to talk to their company's lawyer!  
So I never bothered asking again.

I agree that the admin-c field may not be physically located 
at the site of the network and also would allow the tech-c and
admin-c to be the same person.

Regards,

Duncan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-local-ir at ripe.net [mailto:owner-local-ir at ripe.net]On Behalf
> Of Paula Caslav
> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 10:35 AM
> To: lir-wg at ripe.net
> Cc: local-ir at ripe.net
> Subject: admin-c in inetnum
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Registries,
> 
> Please note that this message is send to both the lir-wg and the 
> local-ir mailing lists. We would like all discussion to take place on 
> the lir-wg mailing list only.
> 
> We are re-evaluating the usage of the admin-c field in the inetnum 
> database object.
> 
> This is what ripe-185 currently says about the admin-c field:
> 
> The administrative person specified in the admin-c field must be 
> physically located at the site of the network. The person does not have 
> to have technical knowledge of the network. The technical person 
> specified in the tech-c field may be a network support person located 
> on site, but could also be a consultant that maintains the network for 
> the organisation. In both cases, more than one person can be specified.
> 
> We are wondering how the admin-c field is used in practice, and whether 
> it is really necessary for the administrative contact to be on-site. 
> Usually when something goes wrong with a network, people are meant to 
> try the technical contact to get things fixed. If that person cannot be 
> reached, however, the administrative contact should be somebody 
> responsible for the network who can in an emergency find someone who 
> can take care of the problems. The administrative person does not have 
> to have technical knowledge of the network, but should know who to 
> contact in case of problems. For this purpose it is not strictly 
> necessary for the administrative contact to be on-site. We therefore 
> propose a change to the policy- that the administrative contact should 
> be somebody who is responsible for the network, but does not 
> necessarily need to be on-site.
> 
> Please let us know your thoughts on this, we would especially like to 
> hear how these fields are used in real-life. Have you ever had the need 
> to contact the admin-c? Is it usefull for that person to be on-site or 
> not?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Paula Caslav
> RIPE NCC
> 
>