[ripe-167] Impressions brought from Moscow meeting

> Yes, there seems to be something in common here. Far not everything, however.
> 
> First, now we ( ISPs ) have a pretty simple dilemma: A) we ( I mean the

_Which_ ISPs? I mean, ISPs in _what_ country? Russia?

> Association ) takes the control or B) our government does it.

_Which_ government? Russian?

> Do you need any more comments ?

Oh, yea, am I getting you right that in order to deal with your government
you need to take all of FSU with you? (BTW that's what Dima Burkov said
during Moscow meeting).

I repeat it for the n-th time now: If you substitute "Russia" for "CIS"
everywhere, then all your arguments and viewpoints become much stronger.
Maybe it's beneficial to do this at last?

> 
> V> I want to make clear for the audience the real reason of this "independance
> V> movement": MONOPOLIZATION OF IP NETWORK ADDRESSES ASSIGNMENT IN RUSSIA AND OTHER CIS
> V> COUNTRIES BY ROSNIIROS (RIPN).
> V> RIPN had already monopolized the domain name delegation under ".ru", and the only
> V> thing this they doesn't hove at this time is control under the network addresses.
> 
> Nope. Here you are wrong. RIPN had monopolized RU. Internic had monopolized
> COM, NET, ORG and EDU. RIPE had monopolized a big block of IP address space.
> God had monopolized the Universe. How far it is possible to get thinking that way ?

Yeah, but God had already existed when I was born or so they say.
And I had not chance to express my consent w.r.t. His existence.
Do you want to create another God? ;)))))

> 
> V> If they receive this control, can you imagine the amount of money that will be
> V> "informally" squezeed from russian LIR's for the good relationship from the RIPN
> V> side? I can.
> 
> It always was a favorite habit of some kind of people -- to dream about
> money in a neighbour's pocket. Was that an argument?

If these money come from my pocket, then I'll probably ask what I've paid for.

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