[ripe-167] Impressions brought from Moscow meeting

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> From: Sergey A. Mukhin <violet at rosnet.net>
> To: amilutin at ukrpack.net
> Cc: stesin at gu.net; lir-wg at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [ripe-167] Impressions brought from Moscow meeting
> Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 4:00 PM
> 
> 
> >>>>> "a" == amilutin  <amilutin at ukrpack.net> writes:
> a> To: "Sergey A. Mukhin" <violet at rosnet.net>, <stesin at gu.net>
> a> Cc: <lir-wg at ripe.net>
> a> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 18:35:28 +0200
> 
> a> ----------
> >> From: Sergey A. Mukhin <violet at rosnet.net>
> >> To: stesin at gu.net
> >> Cc: lir-wg at ripe.net
> >> Subject: Re: [ripe-167] Impressions brought from Moscow meeting
> >> Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 1:51 AM
> >> 
> >> >>>>> "A" == Andrew Stesin <stesin at gu.net> writes:
> A> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:31:21 +0200 (EET)
> A> To: "Sergey A. Mukhin" <violet at rosnet.net>
> A> cc: lir-wg at ripe.net
> >> 
> A> On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Sergey A. Mukhin wrote:
> >> 
> S> I'm wondering why Moscovites try to decide something for other people.
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, I am sorry -- that is an obviuos prerogative of Ukrainians
;-)
> >> 
> A> Do you really think that this kinds of comments is appropriate
> A> here?
> >> 
> >> In no way. What about yours?
> >> 
> >> Anyway, my apologizes to all this list's readers.
> >> 
> 
> [sniff]
> 
> a> Just couldn't avoid a temptation to include my comments to Mr.Stesin's
> a> letter on the voting issue as I sent them just before I received this
> a> message.
> 
> a> 	"Futher developments on the statistics. If anyone tries to sort out
> a> opinions expressed in the discussion he or she should come up with
> a> interesting results - the huge majority participating in this mailing
list
> a> are explicitly against, including LIRs not only in the FSU area, but
LIRs
> a> in other European countries. Here is the vote!"
> 
> Not sure _any_ majority is writing to this list. As well sorting
> just loud voices has very little in common with normal votes
> counting, doesn't it? 

Sure it is. However, it still reflects the general attitude. Moreover, it
reflects the attitude of people who _do_ care, who are interested and who
can predict the possible impact on the whole Internet community. A
resposible guy of a newly emerged LIR is very unlikely to make his own
jugement right away just following the discussion. On the contrary the
particpants of this mailing list are from all major players in this field.
You might have asked, and you once had, why we are still going with this
discussion, after we had been given a reasuarance that nobody would be
compelled to be serviced by a new RIR. I'm arfaid that, in order to justify
the establishment of the new RIR, you will be effectively _forced_ to
continue your efforts in seeking agressevely for other countries from the
former USSR to be included in the service area, otherwise, you think, you
are not going to receive a huge block of IP address space. Suppose you are
succeseful in establishing the RIR for the former USSR area, then I am sure
that no assurances on the free choice once had been given would matter any
longer.

> 
> [sniff]
> 
> 
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