[ripe-167] Impressions brought from Moscow meeting

Rimas Janusauskas wrote:

> If Russia want to establish new RIR, which (according to authors of the
> document) could solve specific problems, let them do it! If any country
> want to join Russian RIR, we have no right to contradict - it's their
> choise.

You are not right. Internet is worldwide, but people in some countrieshave only
restricted Internet conectivity -   there is a censorship on
Internet in some countries. In some countries, religion is censoring,
in others it is sex. There are countries where Internet is accessible
only for designated group of citizens.

 If we  keep silence, we could live  to only restricted connectivity in
 our country in the future, too.

 Democracy brought to me not only the possibility to buy tropical
 fruits, but especially if I wish to connect to the Internet, I may send
 my requirements to Amsterodam - without any permission from Moscow.

Unfortunately  there is no  law of nations  for Internet like the
Geneva  Convention. There are no human rights for Internet. The
Internet is based on  keeping the word only.

It is necessary to be very careful if one  wants to delegate authority
to countries without democracy traditions.  In that case, there is the possibility to
create areas with resticted Internet access.
For example, the  areas with restricted Internet access could be
created  for rebulic fighting for Independecy.

Mr. Andrew Stesin informs European Internet Community of his impressions
from Moscow meeting. I think, his doubts are well-founded. For example, the
main reason for establishing RIR in CIS are the time zone differences (I
know  this problem. Time zone differences are unpleasant. It's quite normal
in e-mail correspondence between Europa and America, to exchange  1
mail daily only due to time differences). Reading RIPE-167, I  expected establishing LIR
office for example in Novosibirsk and not in Moscow. Between Moscow and Amsterodam
there is only 2 hours time difference. I do not understand the attempt to establish the
 LIR in Moscow, when RIPE NCC is the best office in the World.

> On the other hand, nobody could compel 18 Ukrainian LIRs (as well as
> Georgian, Moldavian, Chinese etc.) to be served by RosNIIROS instead of
> RIPE NCC.

China can't be served by RIPE, China is served by Asia Pacific NetworkInformatin Center
(look at http://www.apnic.net).

Libor Dostalek
The Czech Republic