More on spamming..

On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Alex Bligh wrote:

> It doesn't solve it, but it helps it. One of the main problems is
> traceability. IE you don't know where the spam has come from. If
> noone third-party relayed, then when my users get spam, I'd know the
> IP address of the machine it came from originally. This would be
> good. 

I agree : knowing real source address is the base for success. 
It's nothing new... 

> Another necessary fix is for ISPs to keep record of which
> user had which IP address at any given time, and to keep contact
> details for all their users (this is desirable for secuirity and
> legal reasons too). 

I've got everything in my logs. all sendmail jobs and from which user it 
cames from. 

> If you build these two things together with
> a term in peering agreements that classifies spam abuse in a similar
> manner to the way most agreements currently classify security
> problems (i.e. mutual terms for traceability and action), and
> one hopes that similar terms are already in place in transit
> agreements, then one should be better able to get spammers
> removed.

and what to do ? tell customers "sorry u generate spam, we don't want u 
on our server" ? 
OK, but a couple hours later he will get new accounts from other ISP.

Cooperation of all ISP is needed. Index od spammers. 
Absolute rule : before setting up new accounts, check customer in 
spammers index.   

And for more : official documents about spam. It should be announced and 
published over network so EVERY user can read it and imagine what 
will happen with him if..... 

MJ
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