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From: Edgar Danielyan <edd at computer.org>
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Date: 12 NOQBRQ 1997 G. 15:20
Subject: Re: [local-ir] Re: ripe-167


>Although I don't completely agree, I'd suggest RIPE to have someone
>who does speak Russian to serve the needs of Russian-speaking registries
>from the exSU.
 It may not help, because some time you may need to do smth immidiately and
in this case it's really better to
have local office if properly working.

>Regarding payment in roubles - I don't think this is worth to
>be discussed, because no country in the "CIS" has "hard" currency, and
>it will be unethical to pay RIPE in roubles or any other CIS currency -
>you understand me :-)
>I also
>had problems paying in ECU, but RIPE now accepts USD, so we have no
problems
>here... IMHO, of course,

The problem is not in ECU/USD payment whatsever. The problem with payment
abroad is due to local financial and economical
regulations. You need to open currency account, you need to do lot of
paperwork to open it and make currency transfer.
As far as most  Russian ISP working locally and do not need currency account
for theit business it's kinda hard for them
to open currency account for  just 1 transfer/year.
Really it is possible to pay with credit cards or from offshore company but
not every ISP has  possibility to do that.
But this only one of the local issue.

So once more, local registry ( if properly build and working ) will void lot
of local problems. As to the CIS wide, exUSSR wide
issues, I think that any ISP either in Russia or in ex-whateveryouwant (CIS
|| USSR ) region should have the right to choose
between RIPE or local IR. At least for the first period of time, which
should be longer then enough to build proper infrastructure.

What will we do after the end of this period. Move to IPv6 or IPv8? There
will be other issues to solve.
May be Moon will decide to have local ir ;)

ish


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Ilya Shulman   ish at east.ru        +7-095-956-4951 ISH-RIPN
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