ripe-104++

I agree with alain, I am also an ISP and I have many customers that require one IP address for their web server, so how to manage these requests.
For the moment I think that I have to assign my first customer who is waiting for his web address since the beginning of January, a full IP Network number!!

Do you have any other idea on how to do it?

Regards,
Therese
> From ripe.net!owner-local-ir Tue Jan 23 22:58:39 1996
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 21:27:25 -0600 (CST)
> From: Alain Golan <alain at NetVision.net.il>
> To: Carol Orange <orange at ripe.net>
> Cc: local-ir at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: ripe-104++
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> 
> 
> There is an increasing number of entities requiring
>  very small address space, I.E. 
> 
> - One address for a router
> - One address for a Web-Server
> - One address for a firewall
> - up to 5 additional addresses for "other purposes".
> 
> In such cases, they will be allocated 8 or 16 addresses,
>  ( netmask 240 or 248 ).
> 
> Requesting written "Additional information" or justification ,
>  from the customer for a first allocation of 16 PA address space,
>   make us (LIR) a bit ridiculous, and is overloading.
> 
> A telephone conversation like:
> 
> LIR - Helo Mr Joe,
> 
> Joe - Helo NetProvider
> 
> LIR - I understand that you are connecting to our services,
>  and would like to setup addresses for You, what do you plan
>  to connect to the Internet ?
> 
> Joe - Oh, I'll be running a web site for our skate-boards factory.
> 
> LIR - And, are you going to connect other computers to the net ?
> 
> Joe - not now, maybe next year I'll setup a mail gateway to
>  our novell mail system.
> 
> LIR - Anything else in mind for the next two years ?
> 
> Joe - no, the administration don't want our internal network
>  connected to the internet for security reasons.
> 
> LIR - Do you understand that I will allocate you 6 addresses,
>  and that if you change your mind, and need more, you will
>  have to change the addresses of those 6 hosts ?
> 
> Joe - Yes, but actualy it's only the web ... it's okay !
> 
> LIR - Is your company connected or connecting the Internet
>  somewhere else ?
> 
> Joe - no, we don't have offices anywhere else.
> 
> LIR - Thanks.
> 
> ---------------------------
> 
> Such a convertation is more realistic and saving more address
>  space than sending the requested-info form.
> 
> -If Joe had filled the form, he would have probably asked for
>  more than 8 addresses.
> 
> -For Joe to fill the form, LIR should have:
> 
> - Faxed explanation documents in addition to the person
>  template.
> - spent a lot of time explaining what are the fields.
> 
> 
> It seems reasonable to me that if a request meet the following:
> 1) FIRST - First address allocation for this entity
> 2) PA - Provider Agregate
> 3) Less or equal to 8 (or 16 ?) ip addresses limit.
> 4) Connecting to the internet immediatly.
> 
> The address space will be allocated without getting & 
>  filling a deployment plan and justification.
> 
> Does it make sense ? can it be accepted formally ?
>  
> (I understand that it is not the current policy). 
>  
> 
> \Alain.
> 
> 
> 
>