Question Regarding Behaviour Of German Top Level Registry

Dear Mr. Max Gutberlet,

you write:

> I'm currently in the process of transfering the Web Server of a German
> Company
> called FMFmedia to Austria. There is already a domain deligated to the this
> Company (fmfmedia.de), with the NameServers pointing to:
> 
> >fmfmedia.de     nameserver = ns.nordwest.pop.de
> >fmfmedia.de     nameserver = ns.space.net
> >fmfmedia.de     nameserver = ecrc.de
> 
> I asked the Top-Level Reg. for Germany the DE-NIC to change this
> so the name-server would point to:
> 
> >fmfmedia.de     nameserver = server.net4you.co.at
> >fmfmedia.de     nameserver = bkk.bkkallincl.co.at
> .
> 
> They said YES of course, but you have to pay 550 DM (about US$ 390)  a year
> for
> MAINTENANCE of this Name-Server Records.
> 
> When we pointed out, that we are ourselves a member of RIPE and would do any
> maintenance ourselfs, they simply refused to acknowledge this and insisted
> on
> the payment.
> 
> Maintenance in DE-NICs eyes is (quoted and translated from German):
> >... the update of Name-Server Entries, change of Glue-A-RRs, register and
> >maintain the domain in the RIPE-Database and more....
> 
> I do not doubt, that Name-Server Entries (3 lines) and Glue-A-RRs (another 3
> lines)
> are necessarily the duty (!) of a Top Level Domain.
> But I can't understand, why maintenance in the Ripe-DB must be done by the
> Top-Level,
> and what they will do, that is worth 390 Bucks a YEAR !
> Keeping (!) 6 lines in ones Name-Server file must be a realy big task !
> 
> The InterNIC charges 50 US$ a year for handling domains and they have much
> more work
> to do.

The InterNIC handles domains without the checks and maintenance that is
common practice of the majority of European NICs, whether they apply fees
to recover their costs or not.

> I understand from my time on the Net (about 5 Years now) that RFCs are the
> rules of the net.
> RFC1591 Domain Name System Structure and Delegation states:
> 
> >..These administrators are performing a public service on
> >behalf of the Internet community.
> and
> >  These designated authorities are trustees for the delegated
> >  domain, and have a duty to serve the community.
> and (my favorite lines)
> >Concerns about "rights" and "ownership" of domains are
> >inappropriate.  It is appropriate to be concerned about
> >"responsibilities" and "service" to the community.
> 
> I can't see DE-NIC in there !

Service may be free of charge or not. This has been intentionally left out
of RFC1591. It is up to the TLD administrator to decide such a delicate
matter. This is usually done with the consensus of national ISPs.
I know this is the case of DE-NIC.

> 
> I don't expect DE-NIC to be free of any charge, since there IS work to do
> and a host and hostmaster to be paid for, but DE-NIC tries to make a
> quick buck out of the internet boom.
> 
> 
> Am I making sense ? Someone outthere shares this view ?
> 
> Please don't hesitate to applaud, flame or ignore this Mail.
> 
> Regards from a confused and angry netmaster
> 
> Max Gutberlet
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Best Regards

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