Address space for individuals

>  > poole at eunet.ch (Simon Poole) writes:
>  > 
>  > A note on the side: not allowing purchase of IP addresses in other
>  > countries would very likely be illegal at least inside the EU including
>  > any other restrictions on usage of not nationally obtained IP addresses.
>
>Stop it right there.  There is no purchase involved. Once we talk about
>purchase and ownership we are doomed. No aggrgation, no reclamation,
>no leasing to refuce consumption. Erase those words from the discussion
>please.

Yes - agreed. But then one is now faced with the problem of explaining.
"Ahem - well remember that Class Bs we assigned you back in 1989 - well
we'd now like to rent it to you for X ecu per annum - please transfer X
or esle".

>Now to Simon's remark: Where can I get a Swiss phone number in the 
>Netherlands? I think we should not be overly concerned with this 
>problem at the present time. 

Not so sure - currently one can always get a gsm phone in country a
assuming one lives in country b and you don't like the tariffs in
country b. yes - hypothetical perhaps and unlikely but...

>  > The main problem is that if it's a small enough ammount to be painless,
>  > it's too expensive to bill for (a one time bill for $10 is clearly not
>  > going to make any sense at all).
>
>I support leasing of address space eventually. 

Me too but how are we going to explain this to people ?

>With all the problems involved.
>One idea that is feasible then is to lease small amounts of address
>space for longer times with advance payment. This gets around the
>small bills problem.

Yes - that was my suggestion to DE-NIC (also for domain registration
ala Hank's problem) but this was rejected as unworkable. If SPs can
send out bills for 35KECU per month then why not also for renting
address space and domain registration.

Have we looked at the possibility of a routing charge ? 

>Daniel

Dave