<div dir="auto">Hi, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Yup yup, l I was being generous, no use whinging about how every new architecture just grabbed easiest from what they googled, there’s a lot of new space and enterprises are looking for help. (At least some in the organisations who are looking at forecasting future projects) </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">it’s a great opportunity to start renewed. Easiest may be to not agonise over how much legacy to bring forward and just start fresh and make the old have to update Imho</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">RIPE, while I believe their position is they are not the enforcers for every implementor or and don’t fall subject to new eu critical infrastructure regulation as global, still hold a lot of advisory kudos in this space. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Will be an interesting study / paper. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Clodagh</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon 26 Jun 2023 at 13:21, Gert Doering <<a href="mailto:gert@space.net">gert@space.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 01:16:02PM +0100, Clodagh Durkan wrote:<br>
> I am also really interested in this topic, really suspect it???s not broken<br>
> for the most enterprises so why invest into what???s a whole new re<br>
> architecture, skills in-house may also not exist.<br>
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If you have ever looked at (large) enterprise IPv4 networks, you know<br>
that you do not need to "suspect". It's broken beyond any imagination,<br>
usually, with lots of internal NAT44, duplicate use of RFC1918 segments<br>
("every kubernetes cluster has the same 10.x.0.0/16 subnet, because that's<br>
how automated deploymet works - and besides, it's the only /16 available<br>
out of 10/8!").<br>
<br>
Going from there to IPv6 would bring immense benefits in the medium to<br>
long term - but in the short term, it's "extra work!" and "nobody has<br>
time!", and also "nobody cares, these are costs that people have become<br>
used to" (and that's the worst bit of all).<br>
<br>
Gert Doering<br>
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have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?<br>
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