[ipv6-wg] IPv6 only network (not just at RIPE xx meeting)

Hi Geert Jan and list,

Geert Jan de Groot <GeertJan.deGroot at xs4all.nl> writes:

> [...] Thing is, we seem to be working on making the Internet V6-capable,
> but currently V6 performance and stability is a serious issue, especially
> when it comes to reporting problems. [...]

the Good News[TM] here is that with an increasing number of DS-Lite
deployments, these will likely put the pressure on those web sites
money-wise: If the site appears sluggish or unstable to an increasing
number of people who don't have proper (in the broadest possible sense
and explicitly including NAT) IPv4 connectivity, the owners of those web
sites will eventually notice that they have a problem.

I think we are offering these people all the help they need, but until
they actually want our help, that's pretty much all we can do.  We can
spread the word best we can, but we can't force people to listen.

> So, my question to the WG: does the WG think this is a problem, 

Definitely, but: At the few IETF meetings I've been to before they
started the sunset4 WG I've been rather frustrated by the v6ops WG being
swamped with transition/somebody-save-my-IPv4 topics.  We better be
careful that this doesn't happen here as well.

> and can we think of a way to get clueful v6 complaints to clueful
> handlers, instead of being ignored / misaddressed / ...?

The problem of getting first level support up and running with IPv6 is
tremendous, and some people put significant effort into dealing with
this.  What else can we do at this point?


On a more general scale: As far as I am personally concerned, rather
than putting effort into convincing people who simply refuse to accept
that there's something that they have to take care of, I personally
rather focus my energy on those people who have realized so and come for
help.  That is where I can make a difference.

After all, anybody in IT should have heard of IPv6 and why we need it by
now; it isn't a well kept secret at all.  The problem is not that people
don't know, it is that people don't care.


Cheers,

    Benedikt

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