[ipv6-wg] [routing-wg] MERIT Darknet Experiment and RPKI alerts

Daniel,

On Friday, 2012-11-23 00:36:46 +0100, 
Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net> wrote:
> 
> On 13.11.2012, at 11:59 , Shane Kerr wrote:
> 
> > Daniel,
> > 
> > On Tuesday, 2012-11-13 09:36:39 +0100, 
> > Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> On 09.11.2012, at 12:05 , Wilfried Woeber wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Overall, I think this is very dangerous approach, and the wrong
> >>> way to start with.
> >>> 
> >>> There might be very good reasons, why a full block of (IPv6)
> >>> addresses, or a subset of, ist not (yet) globally visible.
> >>> Announcing/Hijacking those addresses may seriously interfere with
> >>> local tests or pilot deployment.
> >>> 
> >>> IMHO this should be strictly opt-in, instead of opt-out!
> >>> 
> >>> Wilfried.
> >> 
> >> Wilfried, you are right. The agreement I thought we made with Merit
> >> was to use unallocated address space. Apparently a misunderstanding
> >> occurred somewhere along the way. We will talk to Merit and correct
> >> this.
> > 
> > Possibly such experiments should be announced in advance in the
> > future, so that everyone can know what is going on. Ideally a
> > pointer to a web page with full details about the experiment, but
> > at least just a quick mail to the routing working group (and the
> > IPv6 working group in cases where appropriate) seems reasonable.
> > 
> > If this is something that requires a policy change I'd be happy to
> > push it forward.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> 
> https://labs.ripe.net/Members/mirjam/ipv6-darknet-experiment

Thanks for this link, however in this case this is not a complete
answer.

I was obviously unclear, so let me try again.

1. This link was not posted *in advance*. The reason I proposed in
   advance is partially so that we could get review and feedback such as
   Wilfried's, and prevent future issues.

2. It was not sent to any of the RIPE mailing lists until after
   problems were reported. RIPE Labs is cool, but AFAIK the RIPE
   community still lives & breathes in the RIPE working group mailing
   lists.

3. There is apparently neither a procedure nor a policy concerning
   notification of experiments.

Cheers,

--
Shane