[ipv6-wg] RFC 1918 in "production networks" (was IPv6 experiments at future RIPE Meetings)

On 2 feb 2010, at 18:34, Riccardo Losselli wrote:

> Hi, i must say i second Gert and Jan their position against the use of NAT, for pretty much the same stated reasons.


Count me in, we should indeed consider the network as production and not do any experiments with it.

I also wonder what we tend to prove to try and prove ourselves with that, the fact that NAT is evil and should not be used or are we going to make sure it works and show the world there is really nothing to worry about and there is no need to invest in IPv6 at all ?

In either case, dping such at the ripe meeting is more or less a matter of preaching to the choir, most regular visitors should be already aware and if it's there first time we can probably convince them about the urgency without breaking our own connectivity.

But maybe...there is a large group who is not aware, but those are usually not the folks visiting the RIPE meeting, but usually reside somewhere on the executive floor or stock market trading rooms. Why not instead of experimenting on our own come up with a bunch of usefull instructions to do-it-yourself, so people all over can use this is a tool to convince $boss that NAT is not a solution. Stuff I think is a 10 step instruction on how to limit the number of open tcp sessions on a box to some low number so they can experience for themselves those famous google maps pictures are for real and not something put together by the IPCC.

MarcoH