[ipv6-wg at ripe.net] Re: What is a site?

Hi Gert,

Quick though: Better aggregation, less fragmentation, bigger address blocks.
I think this improves the efficiency.

Moving the HD-ration seems to me more useful in terms of managing the way
LIRs get their prefix, while changing the end-user prefix, is the easier
way, but the most hurting one in terms of facilitating the grow of home
networks (which in turn means innovation and more business for ISPs).

Just look for the big allocations (/19, /20). They are fair with the today
HD-ratio, but are they realistic ? I'm not asking to replace those, on the
contrary, I'm happy that some people show clear deployment steps at a big
scale, but what I don't think we should do now is a restriction, again, to
the end users. If so, then let's go directly to NAT with IPv6 :-(

On the other hand, do we really believe is a problem to have a protocol that
might last for "only" 60-100 years? I don't really think so, as it will be
probably replaced in 40-50 years already, because many more additional
reasons (may be will not be IP at all).

Regards,
Jordi




> De: Gert Doering <gert at space.net>
> Responder a: "ipv6-wg-admin at ripe.net" <ipv6-wg-admin at ripe.net>
> Fecha: Mon, 9 May 2005 14:55:35 +0200
> Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>
> CC: <ipv6-wg at ripe.net>
> Asunto: Re: [ipv6-wg at ripe.net] Re: What is a site?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 02:50:11PM +0200, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>> Fully agree with this view.
>> 
>> I think if we really want to go into this direction, the HD ratio
>> modification seems a better idea. I actually have already thought long time
>> ago that we can't compare in terms of efficiency IPv4 with IPv6, so no
>> reason for keeping the same ratio.
> 
> Why do you assume that the achievable efficiency isn't comparable?
> 
> IPv6 has some bonuses ("all end-customer networks have the same size")
> and some drawbacks ("you need to achieve a much higher aggregation level
> if your internal routing system is ever going to cope with the sheer number
> of customer networks"), so overall efficiency "should" be similar.
> 
> Gert Doering
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