[db-wg] Re: [ipv6-wg at ripe.net] RPSLng database deployment?

Mark Prior wrote:

> Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> 
>> On 9-okt-04, at 21:57, Daniel Roesen wrote:
> 
> 
>>> I've never seen anyone actually using RtConfig output for anything
>>> else then destilling prefix/aspath lists from them in order to use
>>> those in own generator tools. Given my own very basic and short
>>> playing with RtConfig, I can somewhat understand why.
>>
>>
>>
>> It would make countless lives much easier if it were possible to 
>> submit a query to the db that gives back the desired output rather 
>> than having to use these very complex tools.
> 
> 
> Not a huge ISP but I certainly build my access list and route-maps (and 
> the equivalent Procket policy stuff) using RtConfig with no other magic 
> involved. In my previous job at one of Australia's tier ones we did it 
> that way too. See AS7575 (current policy) and/or AS2764 (previous one) 
> for outrageous aut-num objects. I don't use inet-rtr objects though.
> 
> Personally I don't think driving RtConfig is all that difficult.
> 

I have the same feeling. RPSL (and its ng variant) tend to become more
complex (but hay life  in terms of policy is complex too). So  you need 
to invest almost 2 man months to have everything expressed in RPSL.
Inet-rtr is too much for ISP operations and to be frank I do not beleive 
   that irtr can be realistic in terms of description of a real life 
situation.

I do not beleive that router configuration is terms of interface 
configurartion needs automatic tools. I beleive that the routing policy 
automatic configuration sould be our mission.


I do not want to boast over what we have succeeded in GRNET. We have 
managed to describe our real life but yet complex policy in RPSL. All of 
our clients have either private or public AS. The route-maps and ACL are 
generated by RTConfig.

Dimitrios,

> Mark.

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