<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>Hi Peter!</div><div><br></div><div>I think that's a great idea! <br></div><div><br></div><div>Indeed, finding overlaps and ways to collaborate with other WGs was one of the ideas of the survey. I had posted it to the RIPE general mailing list as well but have only gotten very few responses from non-members (Btw... 11 responses from IoT WG members -- also not quite the quota I had hoped we'd be looking at...).</div><div><br></div><div>In the back of my head, opportunities to work together are still best discussed in person over beverages,
but I'd be happy to see IoT WG members sharing the link on other WG lists to get some more feedback before RIPE 82 (and thus, possibly more ideas to be discussed in the slot Sandoche and I saved for the results in the session agenda)!<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers!<br></div><div>Constanze</div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="DE" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="gmail-m_-4858488193701407536WordSection1"><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">I am totally on your page on keeping the charter wide - it was not my intention to open an discussion about this.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Nevertheless to find out topics of interest for the group we also could think about asking other WGs about sharing the survey to gather more feedback (?)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Am 22.04.2021 um 16:36 schrieb sandoche Balakrichenan <<a href="mailto:sandoche.balakrichenan@afnic.fr" target="_blank">sandoche.balakrichenan@afnic.fr</a>>:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">I completely agree with your views that the WG is not as active.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">The charter scope was the line of discussion, when the WG was formed :<span class="gmail-m_-4858488193701407536apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/iot-wg/2017-November/subject.html#226" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/iot-wg/2017-November/subject.html#226</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">With Constanze, we have discussed means to identify the the WG members requirements. Constanze had even sent a survey
in this objective:<span class="gmail-m_-4858488193701407536apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdVVq38C96Mn_Lv8eDgiHGzt3TgzPfx_MMQ4iMiORnM2zWBYg/viewform" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdVVq38C96Mn_Lv8eDgiHGzt3TgzPfx_MMQ4iMiORnM2zWBYg/viewform</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">IMHO, we will keep the scope for the charter wide, but if there are activities focusing on a particular domain,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">since this working group was founded I feel that it never really got traction and struggled a bit to find it’s place in the RIPE community. Also there is not much activity,
despite the working group's chair’s and some member’s efforts (hackathons, BCOP document, survey) to motivate WG members to participate more actively.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">The WG’s charter covers a huge field of possible activities around IoT while (to me it seems) other WG’s have more focus. I may be wrong but I think that this lack of focus
makes it more difficult for this WG to organize joint activities. The majority of the activities of the (technical) RIPE WG’s are centered around IP and IP based networks therefore I think focusing on similar areas could help this WG to become a more lively
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">An example could be analysis and research around the thread protocol of the Project Connected Home over IP of the ZigBee Alliance. Based upon IPv6 and with products from major
players already shipping this could be one possible field of activity that connects with other WG’s areas of expertise.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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