<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Jim, all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">We've had ballots lots of times for the ASO AC elections.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">This is a very different thing from choosing a WG co-chair and it’s not wise to conflate the two. And yes, I know we vote for the PC too. That’s not the same thing either. Members of the PC and ASO don’t have the influence over RIPE policy-making that a WG co-char has.</div></div></blockquote></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To be clear, I raise this only to address the concern about the "monument to process"; it's a simple process that's already proven to be workable elsewhere in the meeting.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I agree that the context is certainly different, and the concern about disenfranchisement is reasonable, so I tried to address it separately in the subsequent paragraphs. To repeat: We should try to reach consensus first, with everyone who wants to participate.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When we're at the point where we have to make a decision in the room, then without a secret ballot, the constituency is effectively those who are willing to speak at the mic. This is ok when deciding about policy. I think it's not ok when deciding about people.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards,</div><div class="">Anna</div><br class=""><div class=""> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">-- <br class="">Anna Wilson<br class="">Service Desk Manager<br class="">HEAnet CLG, Ireland’s National Education and Research Network<br class="">1st Floor, 5 George’s Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland<br class="">+353 (0)1 6609040 <a href="mailto:anna.wilson@heanet.ie" class="">anna.wilson@heanet.ie</a> <a href="http://www.heanet.ie" class="">www.heanet.ie</a><br class="">Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270</div> </div> <br class=""></div></body></html>