<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2658.24"> <TITLE>RE: [enum-wg] Telephone numbers used in ENUM trial</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> Admittedly then it may be very difficult to undertake a complete and transparent trial (Including all call case scenarios, money swaps, PSTN to XoIP) I spoke at a conference in Lisbon last week and was asked why the expression 'virtual number' was not included in the syntax of my presentation. My answer was very simple. The numbers can be virtual under prerogative for a period of time but would ultimately be useless. It has to be the real deal of won't attract consumers. Those folks that drive demand. Granted that the ENUM service might need to be wrapped-up into some type of simple client. I am also increasingly astounded by the fact that the Tier 1, X.Y.e164.arpa root registry is constantly branded as monopolistic. There can only be one. Some quotes from the public consultation on VoIP services, Ireland (DTI UK consultation responses were similar): [4.2.2. is a clear message] 4.4.1 Summary of consultation issues ENUM allows end-users to have one address string (e.g. a telephone number) that will connect to any termination method of their choice (e.g. VoIP). It has been suggested that specific ENUM numbers be set aside, in order to promote take-up. If this was done, then the thorny problem of validation of the user's right to use a number would be side-stepped, as ENUM sign-up would happen automatically with number allocation. An entire range of numbers (i.e. including a separate access code) could be made available for the use of ENUM should the expected demand be great enough. Alternatively, a sub-range, i.e. using the first (and perhaps the second) digit from a VoIP access code, could be used to denote ENUM numbers. If a user wished to opt-out of ENUM, the right to that ENUM number would be lost. If a user opted out of a telephone line subscription, this would have no impact on their right to continue holding any specific ENUM number. 4.4.2 Views of Respondents The great majority of respondents to the first question above felt that existing E.164 numbers are adequate for ENUM purposes and that the allocation of a new range is not justified. Some respondents felt that this consultation paper is not the appropriate forum for debate on this topic. The answers to the second and third questions therefore need not be considered further, in view of the responses given to the first. 4.4.3 Commission's Position on numbers for ENUM ComReg agrees with the responses received. It is therefore not considered necessary to open a specific range of numbers for the use of ENUM at this time. This topic may be revisited at some stage in the future, if the need arises. Note: ComReg expects to publish a report on the ongoing deliberations of the Irish ENUM forum in October. This report will be available from ComReg's website at <A HREF="http://www.comreg.ie" TARGET="_blank">http://www.comreg.ie</A>.] -----Original Message----- From: enum-wg-admin@ripe.net [<A HREF="mailto:enum-wg-admin@ripe.net">mailto:enum-wg-admin@ripe.net</A>] On Behalf Of Richard Shockey Sent: 21 November 2005 02:58 To: hotta@jprs.co.jp Cc: Thu Thuy; enum-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [enum-wg] Telephone numbers used in ENUM trial HiroHOTTA wrote: > Dear Thu Thuy, > > In Japan, ENUM trial will use virtual numbers which are NOT > in the range of actual use. Government does not like to see > numbers that look like actually-used numbers. Thus, 050 or > 0AB numbers will not be used in the trial. Sounds like they have been talking to the USGovt :-) <sigh) > Trial participants (providers) will be given virtual > telephone numbers by the trial secretariat. Those numbers > will have prefix 00, which do not exist as currently-used > numbers. > > Hiro > > On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:28:41 +0700 > "Thu Thuy" <thuthuy@vnnic.net.vn> wrote: > >>Dears, >> >>I have to investigate model of ENUM trial in countries for my >>report relating to the preparation for ENUM trial in Vietnam. >>However I'm strucking with a question that i can not clear. >>Pls help me. >> >>These trial use existing telephone number in the country >>numbering plan for the trial. In Japan, 050 (IP Telephony), >>mobile number range, geographic telephone number, ext... are >>used. >> >>However, i could not find information to clear my question as >>follow: If the service provider doen't participate in the >>trial, then could their delegated number range be used for >>ENUM trial ? >> >>For example Provider A was delegated 0AB-CDEF-GHJK number >>range. But Proviser A did not participate in the ENUM trial. >>Can their subcribers used the number belonging to this range >>to register ENUM. How can services be provided to ENUM user >>with this number. In this case, could this number range be >>used in ENUM service ? >> >>Pls help me to clarify this. Any more information is very >>useful for me. >> >>Thanks & best regards. >> >>Thu Thuy. >> >> > > -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Director - Member of Technical Staff NeuStar Inc. 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141(at)fwd.pulver.com ENUM +87810-13313-31331 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile +1 703.593.2683 Fax: +1 815.333.1237 <<A HREF="mailto:richard(at)shockey.us">mailto:richard(at)shockey.us</A>> or <<A HREF="mailto:richard.shockey(at)neustar.biz">mailto:richard.shockey(at)neustar.biz</A>> <<A HREF="http://www.neustar.biz" TARGET="_blank">http://www.neustar.biz</A>> ; <<A HREF="http://www.enum.org" TARGET="_blank">http://www.enum.org</A>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< </BODY> </HTML>