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<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=476150609-13122004>Question to the friends in
Poland - does "</SPAN>Access to the production system<SPAN
class=476150609-13122004>" mean read access or write access or both
?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=476150609-13122004>My question was related to my
assumption and initial understanding, that all access was restricted to polish
TSPs, like in a Carrier-E**M System my understanding is that ALL
ACCESS is limited to participating Carriers. I would definitely question
compliance to EU regulation if ALL ACCESS (incl. READ access) was limited to
polish TSPs.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=476150609-13122004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=476150609-13122004>To the further reaching
question raised by Richard: no comment</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=476150609-13122004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=476150609-13122004>Lothar</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=de dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> Stastny Richard
[mailto:Richard.Stastny@oefeg.at] <BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Montag, 13. Dezember
2004 10:00<BR><B>An:</B> Reith, Lothar [HAHN:NGD:EXCH]; Andrzej Bartosiewicz;
Carsten Schiefner<BR><B>Cc:</B> enum-wg@ripe.net<BR><B>Betreff:</B> RE:
[enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM ...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=453235708-13122004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Good question.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=453235708-13122004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>BTW: I ask myself the same question regarding the recent
regulations in Germany that only providers in located in
Germany</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=453235708-13122004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>may get numbers ;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=453235708-13122004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>-richard</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Lothar Reith
[mailto:lothar.reith@nortelnetworks.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December
13, 2004 9:55 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Stastny Richard; 'Andrzej Bartosiewicz';
'Carsten Schiefner'<BR><B>Cc:</B> 'enum-wg@ripe.net'<BR><B>Subject:</B> AW:
[enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM ...<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>A problem may be in the formulation: "Every TSP in
Poland".</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Is that in compliance with EU regulations
for fair cross-border competition ?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Lothar</FONT>
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<P><FONT size=2>-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>Von: enum-wg-admin@ripe.net [<A
href="mailto:enum-wg-admin@ripe.net">mailto:enum-wg-admin@ripe.net</A>]
</FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Gesendet: Samstag, 11. Dezember 2004 18:28</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>An: Andrzej Bartosiewicz; Carsten Schiefner</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Cc: enum-wg@ripe.net</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Betreff: Re:
[enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM ...</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>>BTW: Access to the production system is restricted to
the TSPs with </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>>officially assigned numering
blocks by "Office of Telecommunications </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>>and Post
Regulation" in Poland.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2> </FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>There is only one "minor" problem with the implementation in Poland:
It is Carrier E**M in e164.arpa -richard</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>________________________________</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Von: enum-wg-admin@ripe.net im Auftrag von Andrzej
Bartosiewicz</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Gesendet: Sa 11.12.2004 16:55</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>An: Carsten Schiefner</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Cc:
enum-wg@ripe.net</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Betreff: Re: [enum-wg] COCOM &
ENUM ...</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>Carsten,</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>The answer is: Yes. We have switched over to production 6
months ago. You missed my presentation in Sophia Antipolis... :)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Every TSP in Poland with assigned numbering block may sign
the contract with NASK and start the registration of ENUM domain names in
8.4.e164.arpa (5 EURO/year).</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>BTW: Access to the production system is restricted to the
TSPs with officially assigned numering blocks by "Office of
Telecommunications and Post Regulation" in Poland. We also have the
"testing" system, so everybody (not only TSPs) can test the full
functionality. The only difference is that we do not export domain names to
zone file from the "testing" system.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Andrzej.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Carsten Schiefner wrote:</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>> Hi Andrzej,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>> thanks for the link - on p. 4 it reads: "Production
registry launch: </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>> May 19, 2004".</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> Did I completely miss a
according announcement on all of my ENUM </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>>
related lists (and there are some! ;-) or did NASK switch over to
</FONT><BR><FONT size=2>> production in absolute silence?</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> Best,</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>
-C.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT>
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