[enum-wg] enum-wg Digest, Vol 20, Issue 3

>From my perspective ENUM WG is a valuable resource... Now more than ever as voice moves from a network resource to an application resource.

alex hardie | sales director | +1 404 229 7635 | alex.hardie at nominum.com | www.nominum.com

> On Nov 13, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "enum-wg-request at ripe.net" <enum-wg-request at ripe.net> wrote:
> 
> Send enum-wg mailing list submissions to
>    enum-wg at ripe.net
> 
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>    https://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/enum-wg
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>    enum-wg-request at ripe.net
> 
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>    enum-wg-owner at ripe.net
> 
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of enum-wg digest..."
> 
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>   1. Re: Fwd: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Niall O'Reilly)
>   2. Re: Fwd: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Carsten Schiefner)
>   3. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
>      (Michele Neylon - Blacknight)
>   4. Re: Fwd: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Carsten Schiefner)
>   5. Re: Fwd: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
>      (Michele Neylon - Blacknight)
>   6. Re: Multiple: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Rick van Rein)
>   7. Re: Fwd: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Carsten Schiefner)
>   8. insert meaningless and irrelevant Subject header (Jim Reid)
>   9. Re: insert meaningless and irrelevant Subject header
>      (Sander Steffann)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 11:18:34 +0000
> From: "Niall O'Reilly" <niall.oreilly at ucd.ie>
> Subject: Re: [enum-wg] Fwd: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
> To: RIPE ENUM WG <enum-wg at ripe.net>
> Message-ID: <D82EB7CC-8D7C-4733-A68F-51020D58089A at ucd.ie>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> 
>> On 13 Nov 2013, at 08:55, Carsten Schiefner wrote:
>> 
>> I believe we should have a brief discussion at least to see a tendency whether or not this WG should join Peter's network at LinkedIn.
> 
>    [Co-Chair hat OFF]
> 
>    Absolutely not: it would coerce non-consenting subscribers to the WG list.
>    Individuals who wish to join Peter's network at LinkedIn are of course
>    free and welcome to do so.
> 
>    Best regards,
>    Niall
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 14:05:12 +0100
> From: Carsten Schiefner <enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de>
> Subject: Re: [enum-wg] Fwd: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
> To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com>,    RIPE ENUM
>    WG <enum-wg at ripe.net>
> Message-ID: <52837908.1090007 at schiefner.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Michele -
> 
>> On 13.11.2013 10:22, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>> So is the WG a "person" or not?
> 
> this is an excellent question that AFAIK never got asked so far. So 
> maybe firstly, the WG chairs collective might want to form an opinion 
> about this?
> 
> That beside: would it make a difference to you in making the decision if 
> the WG should join or not?
> 
> ;-)
> 
> Best,
> 
>    -C.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 13:19:15 +0000
> From: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com>
> Subject: Re: [enum-wg] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
> To: Carsten Schiefner <enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de>
> Cc: RIPE ENUM WG <enum-wg at ripe.net>
> Message-ID:
>    <D1AC4482BED7C04DAC43491E9A9DBEC38D1C4DED at bkexchmbx02.blacknight.local>
>    
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> 
>> On 13 Nov 2013, at 13:05, Carsten Schiefner <enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Michele -
>> 
>>> On 13.11.2013 10:22, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>>> So is the WG a "person" or not?
>> 
>> this is an excellent question that AFAIK never got asked so far. So maybe firstly, the WG chairs collective might want to form an opinion about this?
>> 
>> That beside: would it make a difference to you in making the decision if the WG should join or not?
> 
> Maybe not to me personally, but if a WG becomes a person then what does that makes its members?
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> ;-)
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>>    -C.
> 
> Mr Michele Neylon
> Blacknight Solutions ?
> Hosting & Domains
> ICANN Accredited Registrar
> http://www.blacknight.co
> http://blog.blacknight.com/
> Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072
> US: 213-233-1612 
> Locall: 1850 929 929
> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
> Facebook: http://fb.me/blacknight
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon
> -------------------------------
> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty
> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland  Company No.: 370845
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 14:30:19 +0100
> From: Carsten Schiefner <enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de>
> Subject: Re: [enum-wg] Fwd: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
> To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com>
> Cc: RIPE ENUM WG <enum-wg at ripe.net>
> Message-ID: <52837EEB.40109 at schiefner.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> 
> Do I see the dawn for the need of a RIPE philosophy BoF? ;-)
> 
>> On 13.11.2013 14:19, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>> Maybe not to me personally, but if a WG becomes a person then what
>> does that makes its members?
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 13:31:41 +0000
> From: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com>
> Subject: Re: [enum-wg] Fwd: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
> To: Carsten Schiefner <enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de>
> Cc: RIPE ENUM WG <enum-wg at ripe.net>
> Message-ID:
>    <D1AC4482BED7C04DAC43491E9A9DBEC38D1C4E40 at bkexchmbx02.blacknight.local>
>    
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> as long as there's liquid refreshment at the meetings :)
> --
> Mr Michele Neylon
> Blacknight Solutions
> Hosting & Colocation, Domains
> http://www.blacknight.co/
> http://blog.blacknight.com/
> http://www.technology.ie
> Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072
> Locall: 1850 929 929
> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
> Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon
> -------------------------------
> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty
> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland  Company No.: 370845
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Carsten Schiefner [enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de]
> Sent: 13 November 2013 13:30
> To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight
> Cc: RIPE ENUM WG
> Subject: Re: [enum-wg] Fwd: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
> 
> Do I see the dawn for the need of a RIPE philosophy BoF? ;-)
> 
>> On 13.11.2013 14:19, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>> Maybe not to me personally, but if a WG becomes a person then what
>> does that makes its members?
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 13:27:22 +0000
> From: Rick van Rein <rick at openfortress.nl>
> Subject: Re: [enum-wg] Multiple: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
> To: RIPE ENUM WG <enum-wg at ripe.net>
> Message-ID: <20131113132721.GC15992 at vanrein.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> So is the WG a "person" or not?
> 
> ...and does it have the (legal,ethical) right to upload contact lists to an NSA-pod without agreement from the contained address holders?!?
> 
> -Rick
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 14:37:48 +0100
> From: Carsten Schiefner <enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de>
> Subject: Re: [enum-wg] Fwd: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
> To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com>
> Cc: RIPE ENUM WG <enum-wg at ripe.net>
> Message-ID: <528380AC.9070100 at schiefner.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> That BoF does already exist for years, Michele - as you are well aware. :-)
> 
>> On 13.11.2013 14:31, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>> as long as there's liquid refreshment at the meetings :)
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 13:40:03 +0000
> From: Jim Reid <jim at rfc1035.com>
> Subject: [enum-wg] insert meaningless and irrelevant Subject header
> To: Carsten Schiefner <enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de>
> Cc: RIPE ENUM WG <enum-wg at ripe.net>,    Michele Neylon - Blacknight
>    <michele at blacknight.com>
> Message-ID: <98FC113C-0CDC-41B7-9068-5626D8889DBE at rfc1035.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
>> On 13 Nov 2013, at 13:30, Carsten Schiefner <enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Do I see the dawn for the need of a RIPE philosophy BoF? ;-)
> 
> Well its first item of business would be to decide if the ENUM WG is *really* dead or not. :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:24:34 +0100
> From: Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl>
> Subject: Re: [enum-wg] insert meaningless and irrelevant Subject
>    header
> To: Jim Reid <jim at rfc1035.com>
> Cc: RIPE ENUM WG <enum-wg at ripe.net>,    Carsten Schiefner
>    <enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de>
> Message-ID: <A9A7201A-9009-4CB0-8B5F-EAD795666142 at steffann.nl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> Op 13 nov. 2013, om 14:40 heeft Jim Reid <jim at rfc1035.com> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> On 13 Nov 2013, at 13:30, Carsten Schiefner <enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do I see the dawn for the need of a RIPE philosophy BoF? ;-)
>> 
>> Well its first item of business would be to decide if the ENUM WG is *really* dead or not. :-)
> 
> Obviously not: there is more traffic on this mailing list now than there has been in years! ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Sander
> 
> 
> 
> 
> End of enum-wg Digest, Vol 20, Issue 3
> **************************************