[enum-wg] 9.3.e164.arpa down

On 16 Nov 2006, at 11:54, Michael Haberler wrote:
> some party which is not
> necessarily part of the Internet management culture

On 16 Nov 2006, at 17:02, Jim Reid wrote:
> I also encouraged Michael to do two things. One was to submit a  
> draft/paper to this WG on good DNS practices. If the WG picks up on  
> that -- ie they get something to actually work on -- there's then a  
> "standard" for Tier-1 operators and bureaucrats to follow. Next, if  
> there's something that needs to be done to make SIP servers more  
> robust to lame delegation errors, these should be written up too.  
> That piece of work may be out of scope for the RIPE ENUM WG. Though  
> this is for the WG to decide.

On 16 Nov 2006, at 17:17, John C Klensin wrote:
> Yes, absolutely.  But remember that such a document would
> provide guidance for those who felt like listening.   For those
> who do not, and especially for those who are determined to
> "prove" that ENUM and/or Internet-based telephony generally
> won't work (I am not assuming that Italy is in that camp), such
> documents won't change anything.

On 16 Nov 2006, at 20:22, Michael Haberler wrote:
> I dont think I need to write a paper on good DNS practice because of
> that incident. The errors made in the case in question do not  
> require that.

[ WG Co-Chair hat OFF ]

Of course not.  Although that _is_ what Jim suggested (see above),  
I'ld like
to believe he was using the phrase as a kind of shorthand, and meant  
something
different, but related, and IMHO actually useful.

Another "good DNS practice" document will simply not be worth the  
effort.
The people who might read it know it already;  those who should  
_need_ to
read it won't have their radar pointing in the right direction.

A document on "good ENUM Tier-1 practice", if it were available,  
would be
something to which the RIPE NCC could _respectfully_ draw the  
attention of
new (or not-yet-alerted) Tier-1 operators.

[ WG Co-Chair hat ON ]

I believe that such a document would be a useful _output_ (for a change)
from the RIPE ENUM WG.

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Best regards,

Niall O'Reilly
Co-Chair, RIPE ENUM Working Group