[enum-wg] Meanwhile back in good ol' Germany

I tend to agree with Thilo.
Does anyone really believe that an incumbent telco
is going to "hurry up" and implement a brand new prefix
and enable an innovative service to its own economic disadvantage?
On the other hand are special prefixes for VoIP truly a step forward for
VoIP services?
Or are we being misled to develop our own subculture
on the net and let ourselves become marginalized instead of truly
converging the networks which in the ultimate consequence must mean
using geographical "normal" teleophone numbers for VoIP services.
Which also means seamless transitions between networks (IP and telco).

I personally see the subjects prefix 032 (in Germany), ENUM validation and
unbundling of the local loop as smoke bombs to distract the VoIP community.
It is sad that the RegTP plays along with this game.
Any of the above mentioned subjects could be solved
and/or implemented within months, not years, if there was a will.

Ubundling of the local loop:
Reality in California, Norway, Vienna, Japan (see current edition of VON
magazine).

ENUM validation:
1) I can sign a DINA4 sheet of paper and have my telephone
connection and all associated numbers ported from any
current telco network to any other telco network
willing to offer me telephony service. (I have actually done this often,
works fine.)
Takes 2 weeks max.

2) I can sign a sheet of paper (or even respond to an email) and have
my web domains moved from one webhosting provider to the next.
If it takes two weeks that's actually kind of slow. Works fine also!

3) I cannot sign a sheet of paper and have my telephone number simply
assigned as an ENUM domain because this is apparently a BIG PROBLEM.
Don't believe the hype.

Prefix 032:
Do we really want it? Do you think the telcos (incumbent or other)
are really going to offer local charges for termination to such numbers?
Will this appeal to the masses like special prefixes for cell phone
networks?


Greetz,
John-Erik Horn
VoIP Project Manager
toplink-plannet GmbH
Schönfeldstraße 8
76131 Karlsruhe
Tel: +49-721-663-6450
Fax: +49-721-663-6199
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stastny Richard" <Richard.Stastny at oefeg.at>
To: "Carsten Schiefner" <enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de>; <enum-wg at ripe.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [enum-wg] Meanwhile back in good ol' Germany


> >One of the major outcomes is that allocation rules for 032 national
> >numbers will be out as early as 24 November (this year! ;-) and that
> >ranges may be applied for immediately afterwards.
>
> Really? I have heard this differently today from Thilo Salmon here at the
VON:
> He said that it will take DT approx. year to have the routing for 032in
place
>
> Richard
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
> Von: Carsten Schiefner [mailto:enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de]
> Gesendet: Di 19.10.2004 22:51
> An: enum-wg at ripe.net
> Cc:
> Betreff: [enum-wg] Meanwhile back in good ol' Germany
>
>
>
> Folks,
>
> RegTP, the German Regulator, yesterday held a foum on "Voice over IP -
> Revolution or Evolution on the Telecommunications Market?" annonced on
> 30 July:
>
> http://www.regtp.de/en/aktuelles/pm/03017/
>
> One of the major outcomes is that allocation rules for 032 national
> numbers will be out as early as 24 November (this year! ;-) and that
> ranges may be applied for immediately afterwards.
>
> The press release is at:
>
> http://www.regtp.de/en/aktuelles/pm/03100/
>
> The speech given by Matthias Kurth, RegTP's president, is at:
>
>
http://www.regtp.de/imperia/md/content/en/aktuelles/Rede_Kurth_TK-Forum_2004_en.pdf
>
> Best,
>
>         -C.
>
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