AW: [enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM ...

I fully agree 
and this is one of the problems I see by introducing carrier E**M via a backdoor in
e164.arpa. If I am a carrier, especially a carrier acting on an international basis,
I want to implement routing mechanisms within my network and
with other networks (peers) without having to go to a NRA begging first to opt-in in e164.arpa
and second to behave according to various and different national rules.
 
A carrier E**M implementation does not need a tier 0 and tier 1, and it
is questionable if it needs a tier 2.
It needs a centralisized database operated by someone, and who this is
will be decided by the community as will be the other rules. 
This is exactly the reason why no silver tree will exist in the near future
 
-richard

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Von: enum-wg-admin at ripe.net im Auftrag von Marco bernardi
Gesendet: Mo 13.12.2004 08:38
An: Jim Reid; Stastny Richard; Richard Shockey
Cc: Andrzej Bartosiewicz; Carsten Schiefner; enum-wg at ripe.net
Betreff: Re: [enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM ... 



The probem I see is that COCOM should be not involved in any Carrier ENUM
discussion. This may create some "dangerous" confusion on the role of EC and
governments on carrier ENUM

marco
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From: "Richard Shockey" <richard at shockey.us>
To: "Jim Reid" <jim at rfc1035.com>; "Stastny Richard"
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Subject: Re: [enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM ...


> At 04:03 AM 12/12/2004, Jim Reid wrote:
>
> > >>>>> "Richard" == Stastny Richard <Richard.Stastny at oefeg.at> writes:
> >
> >     Richard> There is only one "minor" problem with the implementation
> >     Richard> in Poland: It is Carrier E**M in e164.arpa
> >
> >And the problem is......? IMO the only potential problem with this is
> >that private data could be made public through the DNS.
>
> exactly .. and BTW this is now the #1 topic of discussion within CC 1
>
>
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