[dp-tf] Quadlogy of person proposals
Denis Walker denis at ripe.net
Tue Jul 17 15:59:36 CEST 2007
Leo Vegoda wrote: > On 17 Jul 2007, at 14:04, Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote: > > [...] > >>> I doubt person objects would be, either. That's what organisation >>> objects, do. >> >> Maybe, but in many cases it would simply shift the problem from the left >> hand to the right hand. Take my case at home: >> >> I have been assigned 8 addresses for my ADSL connection by my Telekom >> Op. >> >> With your approach I could easily hide my personal contact information >> because that can/has to go into "my" organisation: object. In the end it >> is the same set of (personal) information under a different heading. > > There is an inevitable tension between the needs of LEAs and the rules > set down in data protection legislation. Unless there is a law > requiring contact information for consumer customers to be entered > into the RIPE database I would encourage us to set policies that > comply with data protection laws. > > I think that in the vast majority of cases there is no need to list a > contact from the customer end of a DSL or other consumer service. > Noting that the assignment has been made is important but identifying > the contact information is unlikely to be helpful in most situations. > Listing the ISP's contact information is the right approach in the > majority of cases, I think. The ISP obviously knows the end user's > contact information and can supply it when appropriate. I see some conflict here between your right not to be identified and my right to know who is spamming me. Maybe I want to complain directly to the spammer. But if I have to go to the ISP and ask them to identify the end user they may just say "sorry we can't give out confidential customer information". Then I have to go to court of the police to even write a letter of complaint to the spammer. The RIPE DB is a registry of IP Address information. If we hide the bottom layer we change the whole concept. cheers denis > > Regards, > > Leo
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