<div dir="ltr"><div id="gmail-:yy" class="gmail-Ar gmail-Au gmail-Ao"><div id="gmail-:yu" class="gmail-Am gmail-Al editable gmail-LW-avf gmail-tS-tW gmail-tS-tY" aria-label="Message Body" role="textbox" aria-multiline="true" tabindex="1" style="direction:ltr;min-height:376px" aria-controls=":11q"><div id="gmail-magicdomid4" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-g6pz71z6z82zaz71zz90zz74zfz86zufz67zd gmail-b" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-weight:700">Deadline for OARC 41 abstract submission is extended to June 20th, 23:59 UTC. </span></span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid5" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid6" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-g6pz71z6z82zaz71zz90zz74zfz86zufz67zd" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">Please note that, we are looking for contributions and remote participation is actively supported</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid7" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid8" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-g6pz71z6z82zaz71zz90zz74zfz86zufz67zd" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">*********************************</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid9" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid10" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">OARC 41 will be a two-day hybrid meeting and the tentative dates are 6th and 7th September to be co-located with ICANN DNS Symposium</span><span class="gmail-author-a-9lz90zz72zva28z66zi3z77zyz75zz78zz84z" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"> </span><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">in </span><span class="gmail-author-a-g6pz71z6z82zaz71zz90zz74zfz86zufz67zd" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">Da Nang, Vietnam</span><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">.</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid11" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid12" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">The Programme Committee is seeking contributions from the community.</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid13" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid14" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">All DNS-related subjects and suggestions for discussion topics are welcome. For inspiration, we provide a non-exhaustive list of ideas:</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid15" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">Operations: Any operational gotchas, lessons learned from an outage, details/reasons for a recent outage (how to improve TTR, tooling).</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid16" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">Deployment: DNS config management and release process.</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid17" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">Monitoring: Log ingestion pipeline, analytics infrastructure, anomaly detection.</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid18" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">Scaling: DNS performance management and metrics. Increasing DNS Server Efficiency</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid19" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><ul class="gmail-list-bullet1" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">Security/Privacy: DNSSEC signing and validation, key storage, rollovers, qname minimization, DoH/DoT</span></li></ul></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid20" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid21" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">The presentations can be either 10 or 20 minutes in length (plus 5 minutes for Q&A). Proposals for in-person lightning presentations will</span><span class="gmail-author-a-qez83zz82zlz65zez84zz67zz65zz83zz67zz67zz70z9z88z" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"> be</span><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"> opened at the Workshop.</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid22" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid23" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc gmail-b" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-weight:700">Workshop Milestones:</span></span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid24" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">    </span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid25" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">2023-04-16 Submissions open via Indico</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid26" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">2023-06-</span><span class="gmail-author-a-g6pz71z6z82zaz71zz90zz74zfz86zufz67zd" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">2</span><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">0 Deadline for submission (23:59 UTC)</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid27" class="gmail-ace-line" style="bo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62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid51" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">OARC depends on sponsorship to fund its workshops and associated social events. Please contact <a href="mailto:sponsor@dns-oarc.net">sponsor@dns-oarc.net</a> if your organization is interested in becoming a sponsor.</span></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid52" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"></div><div id="gmail-magicdomid53" class="gmail-ace-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(62,62,62);font-family:Roboto;font-size:15px"><span class="gmail-author-a-z83zz66zz70zaz87z4wz88zavz79zz81zz74zz68zvc" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px">(Please note that OARC is run on a non-profit basis, and is not in a position to reimburse expenses or time for speakers at its meetings.)</span></div></div></div></div>