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> What am I missing?</div><div><br></div><div>The cost of making dnsmasq/<your router firmware>, or <your os/browser sofware>, dns client recursive DoT/DoH/DoQ capable, which means dropping the need of any external recursive name server like DNS4U, is a couple of million euro funded by EU to create DNS4U, which then in turn will be eradicated by a single software update at some time in the future.</div><div>I honestly belive it is money well spent. If EU spends an extreme amount of money on DNS4U, I might even join in and donate code (to the client resolver that is). Qname minimization solves the remaining part.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Jørgen</div><br><div><br></div><br>
At 09:22 20/01/2022 (UTC), Hank Nussbacher wrote:<br>
<br><meta charset="utf-8">On 19/01/2022 13:33, Hank Nussbacher wrote:<br>
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How the media sees DNS4EU:<br>
https://therecord.media/eu-wants-to-build-its-own-dns-infrastructure-with-built-in-filtering-capabilities/<br>
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-Hank<br>
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> On 18/01/2022 12:51, Ana Sen wrote:<br>
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> I left the webinar more confused than before it started.<br>
><br>
> In the actual call it states "Costs for operating the infrastructure <br>
> during its lifetime will be excluded under the call." and later <br>
> "Proposals should also define the post-project ownership of the <br>
> infrastructure". This call is for 36 months with only 50% co-funding.<br>
><br>
> So based on my reading of the 1st sentence, any servers placed at <br>
> various colo sites (hosting costs), routing costs, etc are excluded?!<br>
><br>
> Does this mean that whoever wins this call will be spending a couple <br>
> million Euro of their own money on manpower and equipment to implement <br>
> DNS4EU?<br>
><br>
> What am I missing?<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Hank<br>
><br>
>> just an update that tomorrow the EU Commission will organise an Info <br>
>> Day (like a stakeholder workshop) to cover all the open CEF2 calls <br>
>> for proposals to respond to any questions interested parties might <br>
>> have. Cloud federation and DNS will be third on the agenda. The info <br>
>> day will run from 9 AM to 4 PM CEST. Link: <br>
>> https://hadea.ec.europa.eu/events/1st-connecting-europe-facility-digital-calls-info-day_en <br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 10:27 PM Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> since no one else has said it this time around the tree tracking the<br>
>> woozle, ...<br>
>><br>
>> how does this avoid creating a nice well-defined target for: IP<br>
>> shutdowns, censorship, saving children from abuse, terrorism, ...?<br>
>><br>
>> randy<br>
>><br>
>> ---<br>
>> randy@psg.com<br>
>> `gpg --locate-external-keys --auto-key-locate wkd randy@psg.com`<br>
>> signatures are back, thanks to dmarc header butchery<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -- <br>
>> Sincerely,<br>
>><br>
>> Anastasia Șendrea<br>
>> (Анастасия Шендря)<br>
>><br>
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