[dns-wg] DNS4EU?

Having played Devil's advocate with my question a bit, Stephane's and
Nils' assessments strongly cover my suspicion by a full 100%.

I still wonder when the compulsory use of this DNS resolution service
will consequently start for EU citizens eventually...

On 10.11.2021 16:08, Carsten Schiefner wrote:
> On 10.11.2021 15:58, Ulrich Wisser via dns-wg wrote:
>> Well, the general idea is that the resolver provides a reliable service that strictly follows GDPR.
>> Current large open resolvers fall under the US Cloud Act with no privacy for non US citizens.
>>
>> DNS4EU is intended to provide DNS filtering of malware and pishing. But with the intention of actually having thread feeds that carry threads in languages other than English.
> 
> Are we sure that 'it' (definition...) will stop at "malware and pishing"?

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Subject: Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:21:33 +0100
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer at nic.fr>
Organization: NIC France
To: Carsten Schiefner <ripe-wgs.cs at schiefner.de>
CC: dns-wg at ripe.net

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 04:08:20PM +0100,
 Carsten Schiefner <ripe-wgs.cs at schiefner.de> wrote  a message of 7
lines which said:

> Are we sure that 'it' (definition...) will stop at "malware and
> pishing"?

We can be reasonably sure it will not. If it is actually used, we can
expect IP (not Internet Protocol) lawyers asking for a censorship of
sci-hub.se and politicians asking for censorship of [current political
issue in their country].

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Subject: Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:21:59 +0100
From: Nils Wisiol <nils at desec.io>
To: Carsten Schiefner <ripe-wgs.cs at schiefner.de>, Ulrich Wisser
<ulrich at wisser.se>
CC: dns-wg at ripe.net

On Wed, 2021-11-10 at 16:08 +0100, Carsten Schiefner wrote:
> [...]
>
> Are we sure that 'it' (definition...) will stop at "malware and
> pishing"?

Certainly not, as illustrated with Quad9 vs Sony Music [1]. While they
are not EU, but Switzerland-based, this is afaik the closest
operational approximation to what DNS4EU goals are.

[1]
https://www.quad9.net/news/blog/quad9-and-sony-music-german-injunction-status/