[dns-wg] DNS4EU?

As highly insightful as always, Geoff - thanks!

On 17.12.2021 02:43, Geoff Huston wrote:
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>> On 16 Dec 2021, at 7:07 pm, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer at nic.fr> wrote:
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>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 08:59:42AM +0100,
>> Moritz Müller via dns-wg <dns-wg at ripe.net> wrote 
>> a message of 179 lines which said:
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>>> I was wondering: Why does the EC believe that the resolvers users
>>> currently rely on (e.g. provided by their ISP) provide
>>> “low-quality”? Are there any studies about this?
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>> One possible response is that the people who write these statements
>> don't know what they are talking about. But of course, I cannot
>> believe that. So, another possible response: in Brussels, they see
>> that some users move away from the IAP resolver to a public resolver,
>> so there is probably a reason for that. (Unfortunately, DNS4EU may not
>> address this reason.)
>>
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> DNS resolutiuon is, economically speaking, a wasteland - users don't pay for queries so
> the infrastructure that handles queries is bundled up with other services, which
> is what your ISP does. But users don't generally decide on an IUSP based on the
> quality of that ISP’s DNS so the DNS department is part of the cost part of the
> business, not a revenue generator, so it gets little attention. Some ISPs have
> attempted to change this by monetising queries (selling the query logs) or
> changing responses (NXDOMAIN substitution) but such efforts has been generally
> regarded with extreme disfavor. So the DNS resolution environment limps along.
> 
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