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<p><span data-position="0" data-size="43">Dear Mirjam and the
Diversity mailing list,</span></p>
<p class="part in-view" data-startline="3" data-endline="3"
data-position="45" data-size="0"><span data-position="45"
data-size="133">first of all, thank you, Mirjam, for mentioning
the DEI session explicitly in the Highlights. It raises
awareness about these topics.</span></p>
<p class="part in-view" data-startline="5" data-endline="5"
data-position="180" data-size="0"><span data-position="180"
data-size="526">Second, I’d like to add some more remarks on
accessibility and inclusivity of RIPE meetings. To properly
credit their authors, at least from my point of view, I shall
namely mention Annika Hannig who often brings these remarks into
our frequent discussions, and also Sasha Romijn. (This list is
not exhaustive.) Probably none of these thoughts is exclusively
mine, and even if it originated in my brain, I would have never
been able to boil them down into these points without discussing
these points privately for some time.</span></p>
<p class="part in-view" data-startline="7" data-endline="7"
data-position="708" data-size="0"><span data-position="708"
data-size="281">I also decided to not keep these remarks for
myself or only for the attendees’ survey. I think that this
topic deserves a public or semi-public discussion. Also during
Friday, we got a massive amount of thanks for speaking up … so
ok, let’s speak up and roast the meeting properly.</span></p>
<ul class="part in-view" data-startline="9" data-endline="12"
data-position="991" data-size="0">
<li class="" data-startline="9" data-endline="9"
data-position="993" data-size="0"><span data-position="993"
data-size="722">I owe to the stenographers so, so much. If any
of you read this, THANK YOU. You teached me to actually
understand spoken English, and what’s more, to pronounce much
much better than ever before. And you know how and why?
Attending RIPE meeting talks is like watching a film with
subtitles – but live and on an interesting topic. I could
finally map the written and spoken form of the language
together. And when I stood up and asked my first question on
RIPE ever, my English was horrible. It took me 3 iterations to
pronounce correctly what I wanted to say – I watched as my
speech got transcribed differently and fixed my pronunciation
online. I love you and what you actually do for the community.
Please stick with us.</span></li>
<li class="" data-startline="10" data-endline="10"
data-position="1718" data-size="0"><span data-position="1718"
data-size="142">Thank you to … was it you, Mirjam, who told
the hotel to switch off the “music everywhere”? Thank you.
This helped to reduce the sensory overload.</span></li>
<li class="" data-startline="11" data-endline="12"
data-position="1863" data-size="0"><span data-position="1863"
data-size="154">Thanks to Annika who supported me throughout
the whole week. Without your love and care, I would be maybe
half as productive and now also much more tired.</span></li>
</ul>
<p class="part in-view" data-startline="13" data-endline="13"
data-position="2019" data-size="0"><span data-position="2019"
data-size="217">And now for the roast. Please consider this
e-mail more of a followup of the thursday talk to continue the
discussion which we opened there. The suggested fixes may not
work, please feel free to suggest anything else.</span></p>
<ul class="part in-view" data-startline="15" data-endline="32"
data-position="2238" data-size="0">
<li class="" data-startline="15" data-endline="15"
data-position="2240" data-size="0"><span data-position="2240"
data-size="65">To reiterate, Sasha was presenting about
physical accessibility: </span><a
href="https://ripe87.ripe.net/archives/video/1258/"
target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span data-position="2305"
data-size="44">https://ripe87.ripe.net/archives/video/1258/</span></a></li>
<li class="" data-startline="16" data-endline="16"
data-position="2352" data-size="0"><span data-position="2352"
data-size="55">Also we were presenting about sensory overload
issues: </span><a
href="https://ripe87.ripe.net/archives/video/1259/"
target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span data-position="2407"
data-size="44">https://ripe87.ripe.net/archives/video/1259/</span></a></li>
<li class="" data-startline="17" data-endline="17"
data-position="2454" data-size="0"><span data-position="2454"
data-size="86">Multiple means of transport to get to the venue
actually increase accessibility a lot.</span></li>
<li class="" data-startline="18" data-endline="18"
data-position="2543" data-size="0"><span data-position="2543"
data-size="211">The yes-sir overpoliteness misgendering can be
at least reduced by informing the venue that the personnel
shall use primarily the badges for getting accurate
information, and not to do a wannabe qualified guess.</span></li>
<li class="" data-startline="19" data-endline="19"
data-position="2757" data-size="0"><span data-position="2757"
data-size="545">The meeting venue map in the badge was so
crappy that i had to find the “other basement” by accidentally
wandering there, and by what I perceived from around, almost
nobody knew about these places. Most of the map was not to
scale, some actual doors and walls were not drawn in, e.g. the
“left” lunch area was very much off and also major hotel
landmarks (reception, bar) were completely missing to add to
the confusion. This can be fixed by acquiring proper floor
plans as a map base, e.g. by taking photos of fire security
maps while scouting.</span></li>
<li class="" data-startline="20" data-endline="20"
data-position="3305" data-size="0"><span data-position="3305"
data-size="162">BTW now I came across a proposal for
newcomers’ session – what about doing a walkaround of the
whole venue, to actually show how e.g. the meeting rooms look
like?</span></li>
<li class="" data-startline="21" data-endline="21"
data-position="3470" data-size="0"><span data-position="3470"
data-size="231">The mass arrival of the Italian Red Cross on
Friday was inconvenient a lot. The lobby was often crowded and
being the whole Friday in the basement actually made me feel
even more that the hotel actually didn’t want us there at all.</span></li>
<li class="" data-startline="22" data-endline="27"
data-position="3704" data-size="0"><span data-position="3704"
data-size="43">Handling of food allergies was … miserable.</span>
<ul data-position="3750" data-size="0">
<li class="" data-startline="23" data-endline="23"
data-position="3752" data-size="0"><span
data-position="3752" data-size="388">At coffee breaks,
both the vegan and gluten-free pastry was so much
separate, that I several times had to break off a group
and go explicitly there. This can be fixed by simply
reorganizing the pastry tables to include these options
directly there … they are all packed anyway and with a
little bit of care, it would be possible to prevent
contamination even without the plastic packages.</span></li>
<li class="" data-startline="23" data-endline="23"
data-position="3752" data-size="0"><span
data-position="3752" data-size="388">BTW what about people
with diabetes? Was there even something suitable for them?<br>
</span></li>
<li class="" data-startline="24" data-endline="24"
data-position="4145" data-size="0"><span
data-position="4145" data-size="293">At lunches, signs
were often missing. And I’m lucky with my gluten allergy
that I can gamble a little so I often chose not to bother
the personnel with properly marking everything. But even
for non-allergic people, wouldn’t it be more convenient to
know what I’m in fact putting onto my plate?</span></li>
<li class="" data-startline="25" data-endline="25"
data-position="4443" data-size="0"><span
data-position="4443" data-size="478">Also at lunches, I
several times spotted people putting pasta on their plate,
then adding something else (e.g. spinach) … and touching
the pasta on their plate with the spinach spoon. This
inevitably contaminated the spinach with traces of gluten.
It didn’t kill me but could do huge harm to others. This
can’t be fixed easily but even with a simple sign like
“one food = one spoon” with a subtitle “contamination
spoils the food for others”, people can get at least more
aware.</span></li>
<li class="" data-startline="26" data-endline="26"
data-position="4926" data-size="0"><span
data-position="4926" data-size="315">At socials, the food
was not only often unmarked, but even after explicitly
asking for allergens, the waiters often didn’t know or
(worse!) gave incorrect information. This can be fixed by
adding a strict requirement on the catering companies to
mark every allergy in every single served thing, including
beverages.</span></li>
<li class="" data-startline="27" data-endline="27"
data-position="5246" data-size="0"><span
data-position="5246" data-size="248">Last but not least,
giving clear and well-marked information in advance helps
a lot to properly prepare and do an informed choice.
Basically, every single information about catering shall
automatically include information how allergies are
handled.</span></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li class="" data-startline="28" data-endline="30"
data-position="5497" data-size="0"><span data-position="5497"
data-size="74">And there is an open question about how to
handle the badges and stickers.</span>
<ul data-position="5574" data-size="0">
<li class="" data-startline="29" data-endline="29"
data-position="5576" data-size="0"><span
data-position="5576" data-size="192">Please, could the
registration desk actively offer the pronoun stickers? Or
what about writing the pronouns directly into the
registration form and actually printing them on the badge
upfront?</span></li>
<li class="" data-startline="30" data-endline="30"
data-position="5773" data-size="0"><span
data-position="5773" data-size="210">Also I’m missing the
covid semaphore stickers with distancing stickers – and
actually, I’d even advocate for widening the range, like
“6ft and mask” / “6ft” / “elbows” / “handshake” / “hugs” /
“hugs and kisses”</span></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li class="" data-startline="31" data-endline="32"
data-position="5986" data-size="0"><span data-position="5986"
data-size="169">Last but not least, there is a request for PC
to not have the DEI session directly before such a social when
you typically want to change your clothes, do some makeup, …</span></li>
</ul>
<p class="part" data-startline="33" data-endline="33"
data-position="6157" data-size="0"><span data-position="6157"
data-size="157">The list is (obviously) not exhaustive (but
exhausting to write). I tried to dump what was remaining in my
memory and what we omitted from the thursday talk.</span></p>
<p class="part" data-startline="35" data-endline="35"
data-position="6316" data-size="0"><span data-position="6316"
data-size="177">Thank you for reading to the end, and I’m hoping
for a productive discussion with an outcome of having the
following meetings even more accessible and friendly than
they’re now.</span></p>
<p class="part" data-startline="37" data-endline="37"
data-position="6495" data-size="0"><span data-position="6495"
data-size="5">Maria</span></p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2023-12-01 15:21, Mirjam Kühne
wrote:<br>
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colleagues,</span>
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style="caret-color: red !important;">RIPE 87 ended with a
total of 557 attendees checked in onsite in Rome and 463
unique participants on Meetecho across the meeting week, with
more joining in via the livestream and YouTube.</span><span
style="caret-color: red !important;">Thank you all for making
this RIPE Meeting such a success!</span></div>
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style="caret-color: red !important;">We were happy to see
active participation at this meeting from both online and
onsite participants. </span><span
style="caret-color: red !important;">We would like to thank
all the speakers, Working Group Chairs, the Programme
Committee and sponsors for their contributions. It was also
great to hear more about how we can make RIPE Meetings more
accessible and inclusive at the Diversity and Inclusion
session. Over the past week, we have had several plenary
sessions and lightning talks, Working Group sessions followed
by the Closing Plenary.</span></div>
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style="caret-color: red !important;">You can find some
highlights from the day in the Daily Meeting Blog at: <br
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<a href="https://ripe87.ripe.net/programme/blog/"
style="caret-color: red !important;" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://ripe87.ripe.net/programme/blog/</a></span></div>
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88, <caret></caret>taking place in Krakow, Poland from 20
May-24 May 2024.</span></div>
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and Niall O’Reilly, RIPE Vice-Chair</span></div>
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