<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hello all,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I noticed the following in the RIPE mailing list and RIPE meeting Code of Conduct (emphasis mine):</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Please treat each other with tolerance and respect. <b class=""><u class="">Free speech</u></b> and an open exchange of ideas <b class=""><u class="">is encouraged and celebrated</u></b>. Demeaning, intimidating or harming other community members is wrong. We are especially sensitive to behaviour that offends based on gender, sexual orientation, religion, race or ethnic origin, or other perceived social, cultural, or personal differences.</blockquote><br class=""><div class="">Earlier, the CoC also mentions "diversity of views”.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My concern with this wording is that, in my personal experience, “free speech” and “diversity of views” are often used as arguments by people to justify sharing discriminatory views, or demanding that space is made for their ideas. It makes it seem like CoC decisions are taken in a way where free speech and the diversity of views are balanced against harm, rather than just saying that harmful statements are not ok. Even in the more restricted European legal interpretation of free speech, there are many statements that are inappropriate and harmful for a community that aims to be inclusive, yet most certainly within the legal bounds.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">By making free speech and diversity of views seem equally important to the incidence of harm, I think the current wording allows too much freedom, and can reduce the reporting rate. Increasing the reporting rate is a general struggle for communities, and anything that makes people more hesitant to report weakens the CoC. Personally, I’d be reluctant to report anything non-physical under a CoC that mentions free speech and diversity of ideas as values.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If my memory serves me right, the text of the CoC was decided by the WG chairs. Was there an actual expert involved? And what was the reason for the chairs (or whoever else was involved) to mention free speech and diversity of views this way? Did they consider the potential negative impact? Writing CoC language is quite difficult and sensitive, and small changes can have large impacts.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Sasha</div></body></html>