<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144542"><span>Hi Leslie</span></div><br clear="none"><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144554" class="yahoo_quoted"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144553" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144552" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144564" class="y_msg_container"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144563" dir="ltr">"RIPE is an international community, and I know that common english<br clear="none">terms can vary widely between different areas. In the US, the term<br clear="none">'transvestite' is often used as a slur. Transgendered is the widely<br clear="none">accepted nomenclature. I find<br clear="none"><a id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144593" shape="rect" href="http://www.transequality.org/issues/resources/transgender-terminology" target="_blank">http://www.transequality.org/issues/resources/transgender-terminology</a><br clear="none"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144658">to be a good guide for definitions of trans terminology."</div><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144703" clear="none"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144704"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144705" clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144706">You
are right, it is not easy to get terminology right across borders. But
this list is USA biased and that is not the same as in the UK for
example. But in either case 'transvestite' is not the same as
'transgendered'. From this list 'transvestite' is synonymous with
'cross-dresser'.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144707" dir="ltr"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144708" clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144709" dir="ltr">It
says, in the explanation for cross-dresser, "The older term
"transvestite" is considered derogatory by many in the United States.".
That is not the case in the UK. Whilst transvestite (trannie or tranny)
and cross-dresser (CD) are to some extent interchangeable, they are
often used in different contexts. In a profile on a personals web site
you may say "Looking for a CD". But if you went to the gay village in
Manchester and wanted to find one of the bars where many transvestites
meet you would ask someone "where is the trannie bar?".</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144710" dir="ltr"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144711" clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144712" dir="ltr">But
of course these terms constantly evolve and it is a while since I was a
regular in Manchester....so it may be all different now :)</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144713" dir="ltr"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144714" clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144715" dir="ltr">cheers</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496396781479_144741" dir="ltr">denis</div></div></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>