[diversity] Draft CoC and response guide

Hi Mark,

There is already text in the RIPE Meeting T&C that says:

4.7 The Registrant acknowledges, understands and agrees that at the 
Meeting people from different experiences, backgrounds and views 
exchange ideas in a respectful manner and it is expected from all 
participants, including the Registrant, to demonstrate tolerance and 
respect to everyone. If the Registrant fails to act accordingly, the 
RIPE NCC reserves the right to exclude the Registrant’s attendance from 
the Meeting, without being liable to pay any refund of the price of the 
Ticket or any other damages.

I can discuss with our legal team if the wording here needs to be more 
explicit around the CoC here.

Thanks,

Amanda


On 10/05/2019 10:49, Mark Prior wrote:
> On 10/5/19 18:07, Brian Nisbet wrote:
>> Mark,
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: diversity <diversity-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of Mark Prior
>>> Sent: Thursday 9 May 2019 13:36
>>> To: Sasha Romijn <sasha at mxsasha.eu>; diversity at ripe.net
>>> Subject: Re: [diversity] Draft CoC and response guide
>>>
>>> On 9/5/19 21:52, Sasha Romijn wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for all the feedback! As far as I’m concerned, the document is
>>>> now ready to be presented to others, unless any other members would
>>>> like to comment.
>>>
>>> Just a comment from the peanut gallery.
>>>
>>> How do the organisers derive their authority to take actions, 
>>> especially those
>>> that deprive the violator of something, such as exclusion from an event
>>> without a refund, and how well will this stack up against the 
>>> appropriate law?
>>
>> Article 4.7 of the RIPE Meeting Terms & Conditions ( 
>> https://www.ripe.net/about-us/legal/ripe-meeting-registration-terms-and-conditions 
>> ) states:
>>
>> "4.7 The Registrant acknowledges, understands and agrees that at the 
>> Meeting people from
>> different experiences, backgrounds and views exchange ideas in a 
>> respectful manner and it is
>> expected from all participants, including the Registrant, to 
>> demonstrate tolerance and respect to
>> everyone. If the Registrant fails to act accordingly, the RIPE NCC 
>> reserves the right to exclude the
>> Registrant’s attendance from the Meeting, without being liable to pay 
>> any refund of the price of the
>> Ticket or any other damages."
>>
>> So that's pretty clear. It can be easily amended to specifically 
>> mention the CoC when we get to that point.
>
> I would still see a need to tie the people saying someone has breeched 
> the T&C's and this is their penalty to the "RIPE NCC". It could be 
> just saying that the organisers are acting on behalf of the RIPE NCC.
>
> Mark.
>
> PS I was an organiser at AusNOG and some of the board took the 
> "nuclear" CoC option and went to a lawyer to craft one. I didn't agree 
> with that approach but the concern was ensuing the legal position was 
> strong.
>
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