[diversity] Experiences from the Django community

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On Jul 15, 2017 05:00, "Malcolm Hutty" <malcolm at linx.net> wrote:

On 14/07/2017 15:03, Leslie wrote:
>
> Do you feel like the Code of Conduct
> https://ripe74.ripe.net/on-site/code-of-conduct/ and
> https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/ripe-mailing-
list-ripe-forum-code-of-conduct
> is not sufficient? What's it lacking?
>

Well it certainly worth a review to see if it's fit for purpose,
especially since it was simply announced without community review.


It has been around for several meetings and printed on the badges for at
least the last two meetings, if not more. It's not a secret by any means.



>>
>> I think we should also consider trying to actively survey former
>> community participants who no longer participate, to discover if
>> non-participation was motivated by a previous negative experience
>> (again, prevalence); and also, if not, to discover if there was another
>> identifiable lack that might be remediable.
>>
>
> Giving a survey of people's experiences is a good idea, but not if it
> the purpose is only to say "there's not a problem" as it is very
> difficult (close to impossible) to survey people who have left the
> community and people who don't feel comfortable joining in the first
> place.  There's survivorship bias.

Thank you for your support for the idea.  As I said, the purpose would
be to discover the prevalence of abusive behaviour.

You will also note that I proposed actively surveying former
participants specifically to counter the risk of survivorship bias.


As I mentioned above, that is very difficult. How would you identify and
reach out to the people who have left and don't feel comfortable joining?


>
> Trying to be more inclusive is not disrespecting individuals or
> pandering to demographic statistics.

No, but setting targets for demographic statistics for our community
does constitute such pandering, will inevitably lead to actions that
disrespect individuals (as it prioritises their membership of an
identified group over what they have to contribute) and is, in my
opinion, the opposite of inclusive.



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