<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I am sorry to say that currently “no” there is no any option to return the personal data in RDAP. We want to be consistent across the interfaces so since the beginning returning email there was inconsistent and we don’t want to block users due to inadvertently reaching the daily limit.<div>Currently there is no mechanism in the RDAP spec to allow returning personal data, but we can investigate how to do this, in collaboration with the community.<br><div><br></div><div><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 5 Jan 2024, at 11:38, Miguel Herran via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><span id="docs-internal-guid-318d8501-7fff-819b-92de-e0dbc2f62edf"><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Good Afternoon Ben,</span></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></span></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">This change was made as part of 1.109 release. We added that attribute into the redacted field </span></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">and removed it from the RDAP entity.</span></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></span></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Email is considered to be personal data, so we must be consistent between our APIs and keep </span></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">it filtered in all of them. </span><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt; white-space-collapse: preserve;">If an email </span></font><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt; white-space-collapse: preserve;">address is returned, this is accounted agains a daily limit </span></font></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14.666667px; white-space-collapse: preserve;">according t</span></font><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre-wrap;">o the </span><a href="https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/db/support/documentation/ripe-database-acceptable-use-policy">Acceptable Use Policy</a> <font face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14.666667px; white-space-collapse: preserve;">, </span></font><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14.666667px; white-space: pre-wrap;">so your IP will get blocked if you request too many objects </span></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14.666667px; white-space: pre-wrap;">which have personal attributes like email.</span></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14.666667px; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></span></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14.666667px; white-space: pre-wrap;">We are open to discussion, so if there is an agreement in db-wg we will investigate how to include</span></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14.666667px;">personal</span> d<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre-wrap;">ata in the RDAP response.</span></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></span></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre-wrap;">Thanks</span></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre-wrap;">Miguel</span></div><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><br></div></span><div><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14.666667px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14.666667px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14.666667px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"></span></font><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 4 Jan 2024, at 17:39, Ben Cartwright-Cox via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>Hi everybody,<br><br>I was just re-running some tests internally within bgp.tools and I've<br>noticed that the RDAP responses from RIPE no longer include the email<br>address of the person object. For example I used to (and expected) to<br>get the email address in the object for<br>https://rdap.db.ripe.net/entity/BC6775-RIPE, but it seems to have been<br>removed from the output at some point.<br><br>That does not appear to be a way to log in to authenticate<br>trustworthiness of RDAP responses, is there any other way to get<br>this information? I can see this information on the RIPE website (<br>https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/lookup?source=ripe&key=BC6775-RIPE&type=person<br>) but I do not want to scrape that, and this information is incredibly<br>useful for helping users onboard ( with a trustworthy email address )<br>to services like bgp.tools.<br><br>Is this an intended change? Have I done something silly? All of the above ;) ?<br><br>By looking at the release info I can see it was added in November (#1333)<br><br>Thanks<br>Ben<br><br>-- <br><br>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://mailman.ripe.net/<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>-- <br><br>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://mailman.ripe.net/<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></body></html>