<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><span id="docs-internal-guid-318d8501-7fff-819b-92de-e0dbc2f62edf"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Good Afternoon Ben,</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">This change was made as part of 1.109 release. We added that attribute into the redacted field </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">and removed it from the RDAP entity.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Email is considered to be personal data, so we must be consistent between our APIs and keep </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">it filtered in all of them. </span><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt; white-space-collapse: preserve;">If an email </span></font><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt; white-space-collapse: preserve;">address is returned, this is accounted agains a daily limit </span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14.666667px; white-space-collapse: preserve;">according t</span></font><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre-wrap;">o the </span><a href="https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/db/support/documentation/ripe-database-acceptable-use-policy">Acceptable Use Policy</a> <font face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14.666667px; white-space-collapse: preserve;">, </span></font><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14.666667px; white-space: pre-wrap;">so your IP will get blocked if you request too many objects </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14.666667px; white-space: pre-wrap;">which have personal attributes like email.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14.666667px; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14.666667px; white-space: pre-wrap;">We are open to discussion, so if there is an agreement in db-wg we will investigate how to include</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14.666667px;">personal</span> d<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre-wrap;">ata in the RDAP response.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre-wrap;">Thanks</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre-wrap;">Miguel</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><br></p></span><div><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14.666667px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14.666667px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14.666667px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"></span></font><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 4 Jan 2024, at 17:39, Ben Cartwright-Cox via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>Hi everybody,<br><br>I was just re-running some tests internally within bgp.tools and I've<br>noticed that the RDAP responses from RIPE no longer include the email<br>address of the person object. For example I used to (and expected) to<br>get the email address in the object for<br>https://rdap.db.ripe.net/entity/BC6775-RIPE, but it seems to have been<br>removed from the output at some point.<br><br>That does not appear to be a way to log in to authenticate<br>trustworthiness of RDAP responses, is there any other way to get<br>this information? I can see this information on the RIPE website (<br>https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/lookup?source=ripe&key=BC6775-RIPE&type=person<br>) but I do not want to scrape that, and this information is incredibly<br>useful for helping users onboard ( with a trustworthy email address )<br>to services like bgp.tools.<br><br>Is this an intended change? Have I done something silly? All of the above ;) ?<br><br>By looking at the release info I can see it was added in November (#1333)<br><br>Thanks<br>Ben<br><br>-- <br><br>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://mailman.ripe.net/<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>