<div dir="auto">Hi Maria<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There has been quite a discussion in the last 24 hours from various angles about interpretation of terminology and purposes and context. Perhaps this is a good moment to pause and allow the legal team to review the discussion and see if anything that has been said affects your analysis. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheers</div><div dir="auto">denis </div><div dir="auto">Co-chair DB-WG </div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, 13:33 Maria Stafyla via db-wg, <<a href="mailto:db-wg@ripe.net">db-wg@ripe.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">Dear colleagues,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">Following the legal update we
provided on NWI-13: Geofeed at the DB WG session at RIPE 84,
here is our analysis in case further
discussion on this topic is needed.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">Executive Summary:</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><span>-<span>
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-GB">The RIPE Database is
meant to
contain specific information for its documented purposes.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><span>-<span>
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-GB">Information inserted
in the
geofeed attribute could in some cases qualify as personal data.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><span>-<span>
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-GB">The current purposes
could
explain geolocation information to be inserted only for
‘scientific research
into network operations and topology’.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><span>-<span>
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-GB">This purpose does not
justify
the processing of personal data; therefore restrictions had to
be put in place
to avoid the processing of unnecessary personal data.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><span>-<span>
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-GB">The restrictions are
now
implemented based on the status of the registration.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><span>-<span>
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-GB">If the purposes of the
RIPE Database
have changed in the meantime, this should be established via the
community
processes and documented. In that case we will re-evaluate the
situation and
the need for restrictions. Until then, the restrictions remain
necessary.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB"><br>
Legal Analysis:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">The RIPE Database is meant to
contain
specific information for the purposes that are defined in the
RIPE Database
Terms and Conditions.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">In terms of the _personal
data_ inserted in
there, the purpose that justifies its publication is to
facilitate the
coordination of network operations for the smooth and
uninterrupted operation
of Internet; this purpose explains why contact details of
resource holders or
their appointed contact persons are required. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">Before any new type of
personal data is
permitted to be inserted in the RIPE Database, we must evaluate
if their
processing is required for the purposes already defined and
their processing
can be considered in line with the basic personal data
processing principles.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">Although it is the
responsibility of the
party inserting personal data to ensure that they have the
appropriate legal
grounds before doing so, the RIPE NCC has also shared
responsibilities with
regards to the personal data in the RIPE Database. This is
because the RIPE NCC
is the party that is making the RIPE Database available and
implements the
instructions given by the RIPE community.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">As mentioned in the Legal
Review Impact
Analysis, if the geofeed attribute is inserted for registrations
of assignments
that are reasonably assumed to be related to one individual
user, then the
attribute will be considered as containing personal data and
GDPR will apply. This
is why we have proposed to implement restrictions.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">These restrictions are
essential to avoid any
processing of personal data that is not required or necessary
for the <b>currently
defined</b> purposes of the RIPE Database and to limit the
RIPE NCC's liability
as a party with shared responsibilities in relation to the
personal data
inserted in the RIPE Database. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">Regarding the _(non-personal)
data _inserted
in the RIPE Database, it is also paramount that only data that
is needed for
the defined purposes of the RIPE Database is inserted.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">According to the RIPE Database
Terms and
Conditions, introducing the geofeed attribute (with
restrictions) would be
considered in line and acceptable to be used only for scientific
research into
network operations and topology (see Art. 3).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">We also understand that the
purposes the RIPE
Database must fulfil are not static but evolve over time.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">The RIPE Database Requirements
Task Force has
recently concluded its work and, with regard to geolocation, it
has established
that, although there is an active user group for geolocation
data, geolocation
itself is not an objective that the RIPE Database should fulfil.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">If the community's interests
have changed
since then and it is now agreed that geolocation is one of the
purposes the
RIPE Database must fulfil, this should be decided via the
community's processes
and reflected in the RIPE Database Terms and Conditions. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">In line with the data
management principles
proposed by the RIPE Database Requirements Task Force, it would
be prudent to
approach this issue holistically, taking into account that other
geolocation
information is already provided in the RIPE Database (i.e.
geoloc, country code
attributes in ORG and resource objects). </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">On the basis of a new purpose
for the
geolocation information, we could then reassess the situation to
understand
whether the restrictions on the geofeed attribute are still
necessary or whether
it is justified to process personal data for this purpose.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:9.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Maria Stafyla<br>
Senior Legal Counsel<br>
RIPE NCC</span></p>
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