<div dir="auto">Hi Denis,<div dir="auto"> </div><div dir="auto">If we end up with option B, consider me interested in joining :)</div><div dir="auto"> </div><div dir="auto">-Cynthia</div></div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 23:30 denis walker via db-wg <<a href="mailto:db-wg@ripe.net">db-wg@ripe.net</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi All As Job said it is at an early discussion stage. If we do this using the NWI mechanism then the Problem statement and then a Solution definition will be discussed on the mailing list by anyone with an interest in this issue. Someone has to put forward a first draft for discussion. Once these are agreed, we have three options: A-The RIPE NCC does the design and implementation B-A small group (Task Force?) of community people, with the RIPE NCC, does the design and implementation C-We have design by committee on the mailing list Let's discuss the problem and solution ideas and then most likely option B is the way to move forward. cheers denis co-chair DB-WG On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 at 16:00, Job Snijders via db-wg <<a href="mailto:db-wg@ripe.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">db-wg@ripe.net</a>> wrote: > > Hi Cynthia, > > The NRTM v4 initiative is in an awkward early stage where various > parties (with *no* obligations towards each other!) are attempting to > set the stage for the future existence of an inter-operable successor to > the NRTM v3 protocol. > > As indicated before, the nature of this call was informal, akin to a > hallway meeting at a conference. Decisions about the RIPE NCC database > are made on the <a href="mailto:db-wg@ipe.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">db-wg@ipe.net</a> mailing list. It was a courtesy to this > group to indicate some volunteers would have a call to help progress > things. You too were free to join. Hallway meetings are not recorded. > > I'm interested to hear your opinions on-list or off-list! :-) > > Kind regards, > > Job > > On Sat, Nov 07, 2020 at 10:36:43AM +0100, Cynthia Revström wrote: > > I would like to see more here on the mailing list, so I would request that > > any future calls be recorded and published. > > > > I have opinions on this subject and I don't think me missing the call > > should leave me out of the loop. > > > > - Cynthia > > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020, 11:31 Stavros Konstantaras < > > <a href="mailto:stavros.konstantaras@ams-ix.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stavros.konstantaras@ams-ix.net</a>> wrote: > > > > > Hi Cynthia, > > > > > > Yes the call happened and the problem description is almost ready. Soon > > > will be published here in the mailing list so the DB-WG chairs can > > > officially create a new NWI and submit it to RIPE NCC developers > > > > > > Thank you for your support and your interest on that :) > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Stavros Konstantaras | Sr. Network Engineer | AMS-IX > > > M +31 (0) 620 89 51 04 | T +31 20 305 8999 > > > <a href="http://ams-ix.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ams-ix.net</a> > > > > > > On 6 Nov 2020, at 02:51, Cynthia Revström via db-wg <<a href="mailto:db-wg@ripe.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">db-wg@ripe.net</a>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > I also support creating a new NWI for a modernized NRTM like service. > > > > > > - Cynthia > > > > > > On Fri, 6 Nov 2020, 02:50 Cynthia Revström, <<a href="mailto:me@cynthia.re" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">me@cynthia.re</a>> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Job, > > >> > > >> Was there a call about this yet? > > >> > > >> And if so, was there any outcome? > > >> > > >> - Cynthia > > >> > > >> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020, 20:38 Job Snijders via db-wg, <<a href="mailto:db-wg@ripe.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">db-wg@ripe.net</a>> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 06:30:28PM +0100, denis walker wrote: > > >>> > I would suggest we create NWI-12 to move forward with a new version of > > >>> > NRTM. Perhaps you could write the first draft of the problem > > >>> > statement? > > >>> > > >>> Given that more people than just myself were engaged with this subject > > >>> so far... maybe Stavros, Emil, a DB-WG chair, myself and any other > > >>> interested parties can have a 1 hour group phone call to formulate an > > >>> updated problem statement for NWI-12? > > >>> > > >>> Perhaps next week, November 4th, 15:00 UTC? Consider it a "hallway > > >>> chat", not something formal. The chairs can report back to the mailing > > >>> list. > > >>> > > >>> Kind regards, > > >>> > > >>> Job > > >>> > > >>> > > > > </blockquote></div>