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On Wednesday, 30 September 2020, 19:11:56 CEST, ripedenis--- via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Ronald</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">The RIPE NCC mirrors the other 4 RIR databases and the mirrored data is updated daily. If you add '--resource' to your query of the RIPE Database you will get the correct response from the RIR database (mirror) that holds the resource.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">for example:</div><div dir="ltr">whois -h whois.ripe.net -r --resource 51.79.0.0/16</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><div><ul class="ydpa234f9bdyiv3428598558ydp8d938bf1showripemanaged" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;list-style:none;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Menlo, Monaco, Consolas, Courier New, monospace;white-space:pre-wrap;"><li>inetnum: <a shape="rect" href="https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/lookup?source=arin-grs&key=51.79.0.0%20-%2051.79.255.255&type=inetnum" style="background-image:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-color:initial;color:rgb(42, 100, 150);" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">51.79.0.0 - 51.79.255.255</a></li><li>org: <a shape="rect" class="ydpa234f9bdyiv3428598558" href="https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/lookup?source=arin-grs&key=HO-2&type=organisation" style="background-image:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-color:initial;color:rgb(42, 100, 150);" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">HO-2</a></li></ul><div>netname: HO-2</div><div>status: ALLOCATION</div><div>source: ARIN-GRS</div><div>remarks: ****************************</div><div>remarks: * THIS OBJECT IS MODIFIED</div><div>remarks: * Please note that all data that is generally regarded as personal</div><div>remarks: * data has been removed from this object.</div><div>remarks: * To view the original object, please query the ARIN Database at:</div><div>remarks: * <a href="http://www.arin.net/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.arin.net/</a></div><div>remarks: ****************************</div></div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">cheers</div><div dir="ltr">denis</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">co-chair DB-WG</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Wednesday, 30 September 2020, 10:27:37 CEST, Ronald F. Guilmette via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">I have been writing a modest little software tool recently that seeks to<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">ferret out the identity of the "top level" registrant organization for<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">any given assigned IPv4 address. In this context by "top level" I mean<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">the entity that obtained the relevant IP address assignment directly,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">either from one of the five regional Internet registries or else from<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">some subserviant national Internet registry.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">This softare tool always starts by querying whois.iana.org in order to<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">obtain a first-order referral to one of the WHOIS servers belonging to<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">of the five regional Internet registries... usually and often the correct<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">one that actually holds the desired information.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Due to various inter-region transfers that have taken place over time<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">however, the first-order referral given by whois.iana.org is often simply<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">wrong, and it is really some other WHOIS server of some other one of<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">the five regional Internet registries that actually contains the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">information sought.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Conveniently, in the case of the ARIN WHOIS server and the APNIC WHOIS<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">server, even in those cases where these respective WHOIS servers do not<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">contain the data sought, e.g. due to some inter-region transfer, these<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">WHOIS servers are at least helpful enough to provide in their responses<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">explict referrals to the proper regional Internet registry WHOIS server<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">where the desired data can in fact be obtained.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">I would like to request that NCC staff administering the RIPE WHOIS data<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">base likewise incoroprate some such helpful explicit referral text into<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">the WHOIS responses for all number resources where whois.iana.org believes<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">that the resources are under the administration of RIPE, but where in fact<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">the number resources in question have been transferred to some different<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">region.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">During the early testing of my small software tool I have already encountered<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">a number of such cases. In each of these cases I had to sort out the problem<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">by hand -- I had to ferret out the correct RIR WHOIS server by other means,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">the responses from whois.ripe.net being of no help whatsoever in this regard,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">and I then had to program in some "manual overide" work-arounds in my code<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">in order to deal with these cases:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">51.79.0.0/16<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">51.81.0.0/16<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">51.161.0.0/16<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">51.162.0.0/17<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">51.222.0.0/16<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">151.101.0.0/16<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">151.139.0.0/16<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">151.164.0.0/16<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">151.190.0.0/16<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">185.105.7.0/24<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">185.150.189.0/24<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">185.150.190.0/23<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">185.171.208.0/22<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">194.204.192.0/18<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">I have some faith and hope that the community, the members, and the staff<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">of the RIPE region will wish to be at least as helpful with repect to<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">this WHOIS referral issue as their North American and Asia/Pacific<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">counterparts.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Given the expected increases in inter-regional transfers it seems that the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">time is... well... ripe, to address this small but consequential issue<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">within the data base.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Regards,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">rfg<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br><br clear="none"></div></div>
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