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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hi Nick, George</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">"<span style="color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">fundamentally yeah - it's a bit colonial to continue ignoring the </span><div><font style="color: rgb(38, 40, 42); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">reality that us-ascii is inappropriate for large chunks of the world."</font></font></div><div><font style="color: rgb(38, 40, 42); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><br></font></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font color="#26282a">I totally agree with the drive to disengage with the colonial past and move on in all areas of life. However, the RIR Databases reflect a public global registry of IP addresses, and in parts also serve as IRRs. If we are going to allow all character sets within these databases then we must answer a number of non technical questions, such as:</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font color="#26282a">-What is a global IP address registry?</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font color="#26282a">-What purpose does it/do they serve?</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font color="#26282a">-Who is it for?</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font color="#26282a">-Who needs to be able to read, understand, interpret, convert what parts of it?</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font color="#26282a"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font color="#26282a">Before we even ask those questions we need to consider who is going to answer these questions and on whose behalf? Is this going to be addressed separately by each RIR? Or is it better to consider a cross RIR Database/Registry solution?</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font color="#26282a"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font color="#26282a">This is why I believe we should go for a simple Punycode option now and then start to consider the bigger picture and finally address difficult questions that have been brushed under the carpet for many years.</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font color="#26282a"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font color="#26282a">cheers</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font color="#26282a">denis</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font color="#26282a"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font color="#26282a">co-chair DB-WG</font></div><div><font style="color: rgb(38, 40, 42); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><br></font></font></div></div><div><br></div>
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On Monday, 13 July 2020, 16:42:01 CEST, Nick Hilliard via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">George Michaelson via db-wg wrote on 10/07/2020 01:15:</font></font><br clear="none"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">> Raw UTF-8 would work better here. It would permit the model to be</font></font><br clear="none"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">> extended naturally into multiple script models. I understand its</font></font><br clear="none"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">> inherently more complex than uplift to punycode of the domain elements</font></font><br clear="none"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">> in things, but the underlying problem in Whois and language goes</font></font><br clear="none"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">> beyond the specific domain-name context.</font></font><br clear="none"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">> </font></font><br clear="none"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">> I guess I am saying "I agree with Gert and I think my community wants this too"</font></font><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">fundamentally yeah - it's a bit colonial to continue ignoring the </font></font><br clear="none"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">reality that us-ascii is inappropriate for large chunks of the world.</font></font><div class="ydpab88e2e4yqt1515898387" id="ydpab88e2e4yqtfd55328"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Nick</font></font><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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