<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531857107374_446640"><span>Thanks Ed I think this is a sensible plan.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531857107374_446657"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531857107374_446670"><span>cheers</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531857107374_446672"><span>denis</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531857107374_446674"><span>co-chair DB-WG</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531857107374_446641"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531857107374_446679" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531857107374_446678"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531857107374_446677"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531857107374_446676"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531857107374_446675" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531857107374_446685" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Edward Shryane via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Piotr Strzyzewski <Piotr.Strzyzewski@polsl.pl>; ljb@merit.edu; Job Snijders <job@ntt.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 24 July 2018, 12:18<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [db-wg] Implementation plan and dates for NWI5 - Out-of-region ROUTE(6) objects and removal of ASN authorisation for ROUTE(6) object creation.<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531857107374_446683"><br><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531857107374_446682">Dear Colleagues,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">thank you all for your feedback. We will implement the following for NWI-5, and also deploy to production on 4th September:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">- Separate NRTM streams by source. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Updates to out of region objects (route, route6, aut-num) will appear on the RIPE-NONAUTH stream only. In order to be notified of all changes, NRTM clients will need to query both streams. After NWI-5 is deployed to production in September, the updates to change the source on out of region objects will appear on the RIPE-NONAUTH stream. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">- Move out of region objects into a separate database dump file, and split files. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">We will deploy these changes separately to the Release Candidate environment, and will notify the current NRTM users individually.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Regards<br clear="none">Ed Shryane<br clear="none">RIPE NCC<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yqt5206960320" id="yqtfd18581"><br clear="none">> On 23 Jul 2018, at 11:46, Piotr Strzyzewski <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Piotr.Strzyzewski@polsl.pl" href="mailto:Piotr.Strzyzewski@polsl.pl">Piotr.Strzyzewski@polsl.pl</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 07:40:33PM +0000, Job Snijders via db-wg wrote:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Dear All,<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>>> We also do not plan to separate the database dumps by source. This can<br clear="none">>>> be done, but any consumers need to make adjustments or will no longer<br clear="none">>>> find out of region objects.<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> yes, that is the point. We make a change, and people need to update if<br clear="none">>> they rely on this. By splitting the NRTM and database dumps, most<br clear="none">>> implementations only need to add an additional source, rather than<br clear="none">>> reprogram their client software to understand that what used to be a<br clear="none">>> single file containing a single source, now contains multiple sources.<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>>> I welcome discussion on these points, we will implement as the DB-WG<br clear="none">>>> prefers.<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> Because of NWI-5 the RIPE IRR is splitting into two, and we should plan<br clear="none">>> accordingly. To me that means separate database dumps and separate NRTM<br clear="none">>> streams.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Although I do not run NRTM, I fully support Job's point of view. It is<br clear="none">> consistent with current practice.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Piotr<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> -- <br clear="none">> Piotr Strzyżewski<br clear="none">> Silesian University of Technology, Computer Centre<br clear="none">> Gliwice, Poland<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>