<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44443"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44444">Hi Lu</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44445"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44446"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44447" clear="none"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44448"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44449">My
 current understanding is that AFRINIC does not refuse to create a ROUTE
 simply because you do not own the foreign ASN. They may do some 
additional checks, but if everything is in order they will permit the 
ROUTE creation. So this is not a show stopper.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44450" clear="none"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44451"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44452"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44453" clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44454"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44455">As
 a side note, if you have concerns about AFRINIC you are better to raise
 these points on an AFRINIC mailing list. It may be of interest to the 
RIPE community how other regions work, but you will never change AFRINIC
 policies or procedures by complaining about them on a RIPE mailing 
list.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44456"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44457"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44458" clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44459"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44460">cheers</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44461"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44462">denis</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44463"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44465"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44464">co-chair DB-WG</span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44410"><span></span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44398"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44391" style="display: block;">  <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44390"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44389"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44466"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44491" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Lu Heng via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Database WG <db-wg@ripe.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 13 June 2018, 12:19<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [db-wg] A test on AFRINIC range announcing without RIPE route object<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44388"><br><div id="yiv1651464799"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44387"><span style="font-size:17pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44487">Current situation:</span><div style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-color:initial;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:17px;line-height:normal;font-family:UI;color:rgb(69,69,69);min-height:20.3px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44490"><span style="font-size:17pt;"></span><br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-color:initial;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:17px;line-height:normal;font-family:UI;color:rgb(69,69,69);" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44486"><span style="font-size:17pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44485">AFRINIC accepts foreign ASN with manual verification of the ownership of the ASN holder as stated by their hostmaster in the mailing list. If you don't own the ASN, they will not create the route object. Despite this, the process is long and unpractical in daily operation.</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-color:initial;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:17px;line-height:normal;font-family:UI;color:rgb(69,69,69);min-height:20.3px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_44484"><span style="font-size:17pt;"></span><br></div></div></div><br></div> </div> </div>  </div></div></body></html>