<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span>Hi Job</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_67517"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_67518">This is not my understanding. But please, someone raise this specific issue on an AFRINIC mailing list and get an official response from AFRINIC. It is pointless debating it here.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_67516"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_67515"><span>cheers</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_67514"><span>denis</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_67513"><span>co-chair DB-WG</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_67512"><span></span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_66301"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_67423" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_67422"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_67421"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_67420"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_67489" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_67488" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Job Snijders <job@instituut.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> denis walker <ripedenis@yahoo.co.uk> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Lu Heng <h.lu@anytimechinese.com>; Database WG <db-wg@ripe.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, 15 June 2018, 14:03<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [db-wg] A test on AFRINIC range announcing without RIPE route object<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_67425"><br><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_67426">Dear Denis,<br clear="none"><div class="yqt1751772920" id="yqtfd69965"><br clear="none">On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:58 PM, denis walker via db-wg <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:db-wg@ripe.net" href="mailto:db-wg@ripe.net">db-wg@ripe.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> My current understanding is that AFRINIC does not refuse to create a ROUTE<br clear="none">> simply because you do not own the foreign ASN. They may do some additional<br clear="none">> checks, but if everything is in order they will permit the ROUTE creation.<br clear="none">> So this is not a show stopper.</div><br clear="none"><br clear="none">It turns out that AfriNIC will allow you to set any African Origin ASN<br clear="none">- but only allows foreign ASNs as "Origin ASN" iff the prefix holder<br clear="none">and the ASN holder are the same organisation. This is why<br clear="none">organisations that lease AfriNIC IP space out to to non-AfriNIC ASNs<br clear="none">must use RADB, RIPE, NTTCOM, ALTDB, etc where these restrictions do<br clear="none">not apply.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">This restriction does not apply when creating RPKI ROAs - when<br clear="none">creating a ROA the prefix holder can simply input any ASN regardless<br clear="none">of whether it is an AfriNIC managed resource or not.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Kind regards,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Job<div class="yqt1751772920" id="yqtfd89866"><br clear="none"></div></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>