<div><div dir="auto">Hi denis:</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto">On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 22:16 denis walker via db-wg <<a href="mailto:db-wg@ripe.net">db-wg@ripe.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113217"><span>Colleagues</span></div><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113599"><span><br></span></div><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113495"><span>Please keep this calm and professional. <br></span></div><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113496"><span><br></span></div><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113602"><span id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113601">Lu, the point being made is that RIPE (community, working groups, chairs, NCC) have no authority to change policies or procedures in the AFRINIC region. If you believe that AFRINIC refuses to create ROUTE objects simply because you do not 'own' the ASN and that causes AFRINIC address space holders operational problems, then we are 'suggesting' that you raise this issue on the appropriate AFRINIC mailing list. Then this issue can be discussed and addressed appropriately.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am asking ripe pause for a brief moment so in the meantime we can have Afrinic sort the issue-in which I guess technically it is quite easy.</div><div dir="auto">The issue has been raised in Afrinic. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And I will do my best to push them.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113602"><span id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113601"></span></div><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113668"><span id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113601"><br></span></div><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113683"><span id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113601">cheers</span></div><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113684"><span id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113601">denis</span></div><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113685"><span id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113601">co-chair DB-WG</span></div><div class="m_7813628709450284811qtdSeparateBR" id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113211"><br><br></div><div class="m_7813628709450284811yahoo_quoted" id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113215" style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px" id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113214"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:16px" id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113213"> <div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113212"> <font id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113272" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113454" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Lu Heng <<a href="mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com" target="_blank">h.lu@anytimechinese.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Gert Doering <<a href="mailto:gert@space.net" target="_blank">gert@space.net</a>> <br><b id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113688"><span style="font-weight:bold" id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113687">Cc:</span></b> Database WG <<a href="mailto:db-wg@ripe.net" target="_blank">db-wg@ripe.net</a>>; denis walker <<a href="mailto:ripedenis@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">ripedenis@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, 15 June 2018, 15:00</font></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div class="m_7813628709450284811yahoo_quoted" id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113215" style="display:block"><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px" id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113214"><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:16px" id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113213"><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113212"><font id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113272" size="2" face="Arial"><br> <b id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113690"><span style="font-weight:bold" id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113689">Subject:</span></b> Re: [db-wg] A test on AFRINIC range announcing without RIPE route object<br> </font></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div class="m_7813628709450284811yahoo_quoted" id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113215" style="display:block"><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px" id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113214"><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:16px" id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113213"> <div class="m_7813628709450284811y_msg_container" id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113346"><br><div id="m_7813628709450284811yiv7195274446"><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113349"><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113348"><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113347">Hi</div></div><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113459"><br clear="none"><div class="m_7813628709450284811yiv7195274446gmail_quote" id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113461"><div id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113460">On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 21:57 Gert Doering <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:gert@space.net" target="_blank">gert@space.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="m_7813628709450284811yiv7195274446gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" id="m_7813628709450284811yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1529009458655_113462">Hi,<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 09:55:14PM +0900, Lu Heng wrote:<br clear="none"> > > Internet doesn't distingish *traffic*, but that is not the relevant<br clear="none"> > > question here anyway. Address management, delegation and authority<br clear="none"> > > are very clearly regionalized, so any beef you have with Afrinic-delegated<br clear="none"> > > space must be solved over there.<br clear="none"> > <br clear="none"> > It???s internet, one internet, and it belong to everyone. just don???t tell<br clear="none"> > someone else what must to be doing.<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> Please learn to read.<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> "Address management, delegation and authority are very clearly regionalized",<br clear="none"> which means you cannot just go to some place you find convenient and complain<br clear="none"> about problems elsewhere.</blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I don’t think I future responds to your personal allegation.</div><blockquote class="m_7813628709450284811yiv7195274446gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> Gert Doering<br clear="none"> -- NetMaster<br clear="none"> -- <br clear="none"> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer<br clear="none"> <a href="https://maps.google.com/?q=Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen+14&entry=gmail&source=g">Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14</a> Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann<br clear="none"> D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen)<br clear="none"> Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279<br clear="none"> </blockquote></div></div>-- <br clear="none"><div class="m_7813628709450284811yiv7195274446gmail_signature"><div><div>--<br clear="none">Kind regards.<div class="m_7813628709450284811yiv7195274446yqt6908513983" id="m_7813628709450284811yiv7195274446yqtfd32716"><br clear="none">Lu<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><br></div> </div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>--<br>Kind regards.<br>Lu<br><br></div></div></div>