<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57678"><span>Hi Erik</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57681"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57703"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57753">To be honest I don't think we need to make the rules over complex. If a chair is removed by consensus and they stand again, the remaining chairs can take the same consensus that removed the chair as a consensus against that person being reappointed. I think the logic is their without spelling it out.<br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57820"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57753"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57841"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57753">If the remaining chairs did reappoint the removed chair, I'm sure that decision would be overturned on appeal to the RIPE Chair.</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57704"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57807"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57805">cheers</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57803">denis</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57801">co-chair DB WG<br></div><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57708" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57707"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57706"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57705"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57863" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57862" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Erik Bais via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> William Sylvester <william.sylvester@addrex.net> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Database WG <db-wg@ripe.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 20 December 2017, 12:38<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57867"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57866">Subject:</span></b> Re: [db-wg] Chair Selection Process Revision Proposal<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57869"><br><div id="yiv5052371919"><style>#yiv5052371919 #yiv5052371919 -- _filtered #yiv5052371919 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv5052371919 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv5052371919 {font-family:-webkit-standard;panose-1:0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;} #yiv5052371919 #yiv5052371919 p.yiv5052371919MsoNormal, #yiv5052371919 li.yiv5052371919MsoNormal, #yiv5052371919 div.yiv5052371919MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;} #yiv5052371919 a:link, #yiv5052371919 span.yiv5052371919MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv5052371919 a:visited, #yiv5052371919 span.yiv5052371919MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv5052371919 span.yiv5052371919EmailStyle17 {color:windowtext;} #yiv5052371919 span.yiv5052371919apple-converted-space {} #yiv5052371919 span.yiv5052371919EmailStyle19 {color:windowtext;} #yiv5052371919 span.yiv5052371919msoIns {text-decoration:underline;color:teal;} #yiv5052371919 .yiv5052371919MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv5052371919 {margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;} #yiv5052371919 div.yiv5052371919WordSection1 {} #yiv5052371919 </style><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57874"> <div class="yiv5052371919WordSection1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57873"> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57872"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57871">Hi William, </span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57876"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57878"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57880">I would like to support the proposed process. (with the additional clarifications of the remarks of Niall.) </span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57882"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57885"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57884">If a chair would be removed by consensus, he/she should not be accepted for the same position. </span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513725319961_57887"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Regards,<br clear="none"> Erik Bais</span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919yqt3536970597" id="yiv5052371919yqt79740"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black;">From: </span></b><span style="color:black;">db-wg <db-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of William Sylvester via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net><br clear="none"> <b>Reply-To: </b>William Sylvester <william.sylvester@addrex.net><br clear="none"> <b>Date: </b>Monday 11 December 2017 at 18:41<br clear="none"> <b>To: </b>Database WG <db-wg@ripe.net><br clear="none"> <b>Subject: </b>[db-wg] Chair Selection Process Revision Proposal</span></div> </div> <div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div> </div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal">WG Members, </div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"> </div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal">At the RIPE75 in Dubai, the working group chairs committed to presenting a proposal for revising the chair selection process and general housekeeping of the Database working group. This was motivated from some of the challenges we experienced as a working group over the past year. After taking a review of the other RIPE community working groups, the proposal below represents what we feel Is a fair approach to revise our current processes. This also includes clarification on matters where previously our processes were unclear. This also includes comments and feedback from members of the working group. </div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"> </div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal">Please express your support or otherwise for these changes, the intent is to use this process for future chair selection including the pending selection process due. </div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"> </div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal">Kind regards, </div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"> </div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal">William & Denis</div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal">DB-WG Co-Chairs</div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"> </div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal">Proposed revision to the Database Working Group chair selection process; </div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"> </div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">1) Number of chairs is a minimum of 2 with a maximum of 3. </span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">2) Chair can be removed at any time by consensus.</span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">3) Chair terms are staggered yearly. </span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">4) One chair per year is replaced. </span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">5) Working group selects chair by consensus. </span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">6) The consensus judgement will be made by the serving WG co-chair(s) and will exclude the co-chair(s) who is the subject of that consensus judgement.</span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">7) Selection process is as follow; </span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">7.1) Interested parties have two weeks to make their interest known via the mailing list, or directly to the Chair/s.</span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">7.2) After two weeks, the Chair/s ensure that all candidates are announced on the mailing list and issue a call for discussion.</span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">7.3) WG members express their approval or otherwise of the presented candidates.</span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">7.4) Two weeks after the call for discussion, the Chair/s declare a decision, based on mailing list discussion, as they would do for a policy proposal.</span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">8) Any appeal over a consensus decision will be heard by the RIPE Chair (or their deputy) whose decision shall be final.</span></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">9) In the case more than one chair is up for selection at the same time, the chair with the greatest support will take a multi-year term, the chair with the least support will take the second longest term. Terms will be determined by the number of chairs (3 chairs = 3 year term, 2 chairs = 2 year teams). The intent is to maintain continuity of the working group chairs. So the working group is never left without a chair.</span></div></div> <div class="yiv5052371919MsoNormal"> </div> </div> </div></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>